If it's easier to maintain/setup, I (probably) can live with lower usability. -j
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Dan Haywood [mailto:d...@haywood-associates.co.uk] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 09:58 An: users Betreff: Re: Apache Isis slack channel Hmm, Brian raises a very good point, though ... this is to improve accessibility as well as transparency. So if it's not easy for folks to get onto the ASF slack, we probably need a different approach. I've never heard of Matrix, but a poke around their site shows a very interesting product but not much in the way of integrations. I therefore think that gitter.im might be a better alternative. I'm not sure it's the best UI, but I know of several open source projects that are using it (antora, datanucleus, vlingo) and a search shows a few other Apache projects also on there (camel, airflow, ignite, Juneau). What do folks think? Dan On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 09:18, Martin Grigorov <mgrigo...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Brian, > > The Apache Slack is not only for @apache.org people. > If you are not an Apache committer then someone has to invite you. > I just tried to invite you but it gives me an error (without message, so I > am not sure what is wrong). > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 9:24 AM Brian K <harvestmoon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think those of us without an Apache.org email need an invite to join > that > > slack team. Have you considered Matrix (my preference) or Gitter to open > > it up? > > > > -Brian > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 11:21 AM Dan Haywood <d...@haywood-associates.co.uk > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > As you are probably aware, Andi and I have been working for a good > while > > > now on Apache Isis v2. We've tended to use a private Skype channel to > > > liaise on day-to-day stuff, and we've raised the occasional issue to > the > > > mailing list where it warranted further attention/opinion. > > > > > > The immediacy of a messaging system such as Skype is great to get stuff > > > done, but it isn't the ASF way, and we should do better. > > > > > > Now about a year ago I created an #apache-isis channel on the ASF slack > > > workspace, but I didn't promote it and it hasn't been used. So with > > > immediate effect Andi and I, at least, are going to be using that > channel > > > for our ongoing discussions. You will find it at [1] > > > > > > Note that none of this replaces the users@ and dev@ mailing lists as > the > > > official place where our community lives, and we'll continue to > > "escalate" > > > issues up to the mailing list as and when. But - as other ASF projects > > do > > > - having a Slack channel will hopefully make our framework more > > accessible > > > to would-be new users. > > > > > > So, hope to see some of you there! > > > > > > Cheers > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > [1] https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CFC42LWBV > > > > > > Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG Rechtsform: Kommanditgesellschaft, Bremen HRA 21928, USt-IdNr.: DE 812773878. Geschäftsleitung Kühne + Nagel (AG & Co.) KG: Holger Ketz (Vors. ), Martin Brinkmann, Lars-Olof Grün, Matthias Knicky, Nicholas Minde, Johannes Trimborn, Lars Wedel, Matthias Weiner. Persönlich haftende Gesellschafterin: Kühne & Nagel A.G., Rechtsform: Aktiengesellschaft nach luxemburgischem Recht, HR-Nr.: B 18745, Geschäftsführendes Verwaltungsratsmitglied: Karl Gernandt. Geschäftsleitung Region Europa: Dr. Hansjörg Rodi (Vors.), Mart Ambur, Tom Ban, Dominic Edmonds, Thierry Held, Uwe Hött, Richard Huhn, Jan-Hendrik Köstergarten, Heiko Schuhmacher. Wir arbeiten ausschließlich auf Grundlage der Allgemeinen Deutschen Spediteurbedingungen 2017 (ADSp 2017). Hinweis: Die ADSp 2017 weichen in Ziffer 23 hinsichtlich des Haftungshöchstbetrages für Güterschäden (§ 431 HGB) vom Gesetz ab, indem sie die Haftung bei multimodalen Transporten unter Einschluss einer Seebeförderung und bei unbekanntem Schadenort auf 2 SZR/kg und im Übrigen die Regelhaftung von 8,33 SZR/kg zusätzlich auf 1,25 Millionen Euro je Schadenfall sowie 2,5 Millionen Euro je Schadenereignis, mindestens aber 2 SZR/kg, beschränken. Die ADSp sind auf unserer Webseite als Download erhältlich. Auf Anfrage senden wir Ihnen diese auch gerne zu.
