No "red" in the plain text copy I received :) but I think I can see the changes you are proposing. They do look safe in principle (aside from some missing "{}").

As we discussed before, there is no guarantee you will receive all the removal messages so whether this facility will achieve what you desire is not clear to me. However, it does give an extension point for people who want to experiment in this area and should not affected existing usage.

Happy for you to submit a tested patched as a JIRA so people can check it. I'm about to go on leave so will not be able to look it instantly myself.

Dave


On 21/01/15 10:50, Christophe FAGOT [intactile DESIGN] wrote:
Hi all, hi Dave,

back to this old discussion, in order to increase the BuiltIn behaviour by our 
side, but while preserving the actual behaviour of the existing BuiltIn of Jena 
and those developped by third parties, we would like to propose the following 
patches. Our aim is to be able to send the removed context to some rules handle 
by a RETE engine (while it's not possible for the time being).

First, we need an interface extending the current BuilIn one and provide a 
method called when removed contexts have to be indicated.

public interface ReversibleBuiltIn extends BuiltIn {
            /**
      * This method is invoked when the builtin is called in a rule head with a 
removed context.
      * Such a use is only valid in a forward rule.
      * @param args the array of argument values for the builtin, this is an 
array
      * of Nodes.
      * @param length the length of the argument list, may be less than the 
length of the args array
      * for some rule engines
      * @param context an removed context giving access to other relevant data
      */
     public void reverseHeadAction(Node[] args, int length, RuleContext 
context);
}

Then, when need to define when to call the reverseHeadAction method, we propose 
to complete RETEConflictSet::execute as following (changes are in bold red) :

     public static void execute(RETERuleContext context, boolean isAdd) {
         Rule rule = context.getRule();
         BindingEnvironment env = context.getEnv();
         ForwardRuleInfGraphI infGraph = 
(ForwardRuleInfGraphI)context.getGraph();
         if (infGraph.shouldTrace()) {
             logger.info("Fired rule: " + rule.toShortString());
         }
         RETEEngine engine = context.getEngine();
         engine.incRuleCount();
         List<Triple> matchList = null;
         if (infGraph.shouldLogDerivations() && isAdd) {
             // Create derivation record
             matchList = new ArrayList<>(rule.bodyLength());
             for (int i = 0; i < rule.bodyLength(); i++) {
                 Object clause = rule.getBodyElement(i);
                 if (clause instanceof TriplePattern) {
                     matchList.add(env.instantiate((TriplePattern)clause));
                 }
             }
         }
         for (int i = 0; i < rule.headLength(); i++) {
             Object hClause = rule.getHeadElement(i);
             if (hClause instanceof TriplePattern) {
                 Triple t = env.instantiate((TriplePattern) hClause);
                 // Used to filter out triples with literal subjects
                 // but this is not necessary
                 // if (!t.getSubject().isLiteral()) {
                     // Only add the result if it is legal at the RDF level.
                     // E.g. RDFS rules can create assertions about literals
                     // that we can't record in RDF
                     if (isAdd) {
                         if ( ! context.contains(t) ) {
                             engine.addTriple(t, true);
                             if (infGraph.shouldLogDerivations()) {
                                 infGraph.logDerivation(t, new 
RuleDerivation(rule, t, matchList, infGraph));
                             }
                         }
                     } else {
                         if ( context.contains(t)) {
                             // Remove the generated triple
                             engine.deleteTriple(t, true);
                         }
                     }
               // }
             } else if (hClause instanceof Functor && isAdd) {
                 Functor f = (Functor)hClause;
                 Builtin imp = f.getImplementor();
                 if (imp != null) {
                     imp.headAction(f.getBoundArgs(env), f.getArgLength(), 
context);
                 } else {
                     throw new ReasonerException("Invoking undefined Functor " + 
f.getName() +" in " + rule.toShortString());
                 }
                  else if (hClause instanceof Functor && !isAdd) {
                 Functor f = (Functor)hClause;
                 BuiltIn imp = f.getImplementor();
                 if (imp != null && imp instanceOf ReversibleBuiltIn ) {
                     
((ReversibleBuiltIn)imp).reverseHeadAction(f.getBoundArgs(env), 
f.getArgLength(), context);
                 }
             } else if (hClause instanceof Rule) {
                 Rule r = (Rule)hClause;
                 if (r.isBackward()) {
                     if (isAdd) {
                         infGraph.addBRule(r.instantiate(env));
                     } else {
                         infGraph.deleteBRule(r.instantiate(env));
                     }
                 } else {
                     throw new ReasonerException("Found non-backward subrule : 
" + r);
                 }
             }
         }
     }


Does it sounds good for you ? If yes, we will do these improvements, and a 
ticket in Jira and send the patch for validation.

Best regards,

Chris.

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Le 20 mars 2014 à 16:20, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> a écrit :


On 20/03/14 10:59, Christophe FAGOT wrote:

Le 20 mars 2014 à 11:20, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> a écrit :


On 20/03/14 09:46, Christophe FAGOT wrote:

Le 19 mars 2014 à 18:46, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> a écrit :


On 19/03/14 16:46, Christophe FAGOT wrote:
Hi Jena folks,

since I need to use Jena with its RETEEngine, I’m actually investigating what 
is actually feasible / usable with this engine functionalities.

I would like to develop my own BuiltIn, used in the head of a forward rule, and 
doing some actions when a new rule context appears (due to triples adding) for 
the body rule, while doing some other actions when a rule context disappears 
(dur to triples removal) for this body rule.

It appears in the RETEConflictSet (line 180) that a BuiltIn can receive only … 
added RETERuleContext. Hence a BuiltIn action can only be called when a 
RETERuleContext is added, never when a RETERuleContext is removed.

Is their a reason for that ?

The existing head builtins expect to only be fired when a potitive deduction is 
made. This is a legacy of the fact that the rule system was designed for 
monotonic inference and all the remove/non-monotonic processing is a hack.

I don’t see the relationship between monotonic inference and remove prohibited. 
A monotonic inference only means that when adding some facts in the knowledge 
base, the previous inferred data can’t be removed, while when removing some 
facts, new facts can’t be produced. And this is exactly what Jena Rete engine 
perfectly does with « standard » triple patterns. But when the head is a 
BuiltIn, that BuiltIn does not have a single chance to act the same way. The 
BuildIn can only react to added triples. And the only mandatory thing for a 
BuiltIn is to declare is it is monotonic or not. But it’s behavior and the 
triples it adds/removes in the inference graph are never verified to check if 
it really has a (non-)monotonic behavior. But this is another story.

The point is that builtins in the head are only useful if they have some side effect. 
Jena indeed handles removes when the rules are monotonic. As soon as you have 
side-effecting builtins then all bets are off. Even if a builtin's effect is reversible 
(which I take to be the case you are interested in) it's hard to guarantee all the 
necessary rules will fire in "remove" mode in the way you expect without the 
rule equivalent of reference counting.

Absolutely agree. Would you be open to some little modifications in the RETE 
classes source code, if that modifications improve the ability to extend the 
RETE behavior (or to correct the problem of memory consumption), while 
preserving the actual behavior of existing rules sets using BuiltIn (hence, 
receiving only added data) ?

Sure, patches welcome.

I believe the right workflow would be to open a jira entry/ies for your 
enhancement and attach the changes as patch fines.

Warning: I'm petty overloaded right now [*] so may need prompting to review any 
patches.

Dave

[*] For values of "right now" that seem to be depressingly permanent!


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