Hello,

i just created a JIRA ticket and i attached a patch corresponding to the 
modifications discussed previously:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-863 
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JENA-863>

Regards

Seb

Sébastien BOULET
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> Le 21 janv. 2015 à 12:34, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> No "red" in the plain text copy I received :) but I think I can see the 
> changes you are proposing. They do look safe in principle (aside from some 
> missing "{}").
> 
> As we discussed before, there is no guarantee you will receive all the 
> removal messages so whether this facility will achieve what you desire is not 
> clear to me. However, it does give an extension point for people who want to 
> experiment in this area and should not affected existing usage.
> 
> Happy for you to submit a tested patched as a JIRA so people can check it. 
> I'm about to go on leave so will not be able to look it instantly myself.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 21/01/15 10:50, Christophe FAGOT [intactile DESIGN] wrote:
>> Hi all, hi Dave,
>> 
>> back to this old discussion, in order to increase the BuiltIn behaviour by 
>> our side, but while preserving the actual behaviour of the existing BuiltIn 
>> of Jena and those developped by third parties, we would like to propose the 
>> following patches. Our aim is to be able to send the removed context to some 
>> rules handle by a RETE engine (while it's not possible for the time being).
>> 
>> First, we need an interface extending the current BuilIn one and provide a 
>> method called when removed contexts have to be indicated.
>> 
>> public interface ReversibleBuiltIn extends BuiltIn {
>>          /**
>>      * This method is invoked when the builtin is called in a rule head with 
>> a removed context.
>>      * Such a use is only valid in a forward rule.
>>      * @param args the array of argument values for the builtin, this is an 
>> array
>>      * of Nodes.
>>      * @param length the length of the argument list, may be less than the 
>> length of the args array
>>      * for some rule engines
>>      * @param context an removed context giving access to other relevant data
>>      */
>>     public void reverseHeadAction(Node[] args, int length, RuleContext 
>> context);
>> }
>> 
>> Then, when need to define when to call the reverseHeadAction method, we 
>> propose to complete RETEConflictSet::execute as following (changes are in 
>> bold red) :
>> 
>>     public static void execute(RETERuleContext context, boolean isAdd) {
>>         Rule rule = context.getRule();
>>         BindingEnvironment env = context.getEnv();
>>         ForwardRuleInfGraphI infGraph = 
>> (ForwardRuleInfGraphI)context.getGraph();
>>         if (infGraph.shouldTrace()) {
>>             logger.info("Fired rule: " + rule.toShortString());
>>         }
>>         RETEEngine engine = context.getEngine();
>>         engine.incRuleCount();
>>         List<Triple> matchList = null;
>>         if (infGraph.shouldLogDerivations() && isAdd) {
>>             // Create derivation record
>>             matchList = new ArrayList<>(rule.bodyLength());
>>             for (int i = 0; i < rule.bodyLength(); i++) {
>>                 Object clause = rule.getBodyElement(i);
>>                 if (clause instanceof TriplePattern) {
>>                     matchList.add(env.instantiate((TriplePattern)clause));
>>                 }
>>             }
>>         }
>>         for (int i = 0; i < rule.headLength(); i++) {
>>             Object hClause = rule.getHeadElement(i);
>>             if (hClause instanceof TriplePattern) {
>>                 Triple t = env.instantiate((TriplePattern) hClause);
>>                 // Used to filter out triples with literal subjects
>>                 // but this is not necessary
>>                 // if (!t.getSubject().isLiteral()) {
>>                     // Only add the result if it is legal at the RDF level.
>>                     // E.g. RDFS rules can create assertions about literals
>>                     // that we can't record in RDF
>>                     if (isAdd) {
>>                         if ( ! context.contains(t) ) {
>>                             engine.addTriple(t, true);
>>                             if (infGraph.shouldLogDerivations()) {
>>                                 infGraph.logDerivation(t, new 
>> RuleDerivation(rule, t, matchList, infGraph));
>>                             }
>>                         }
>>                     } else {
>>                         if ( context.contains(t)) {
>>                             // Remove the generated triple
>>                             engine.deleteTriple(t, true);
>>                         }
>>                     }
>>               // }
>>             } else if (hClause instanceof Functor && isAdd) {
>>                 Functor f = (Functor)hClause;
>>                 Builtin imp = f.getImplementor();
>>                 if (imp != null) {
>>                     imp.headAction(f.getBoundArgs(env), f.getArgLength(), 
>> context);
>>                 } else {
>>                     throw new ReasonerException("Invoking undefined Functor 
>> " + f.getName() +" in " + rule.toShortString());
>>                 }
>>                else if (hClause instanceof Functor && !isAdd) {
>>                 Functor f = (Functor)hClause;
>>                 BuiltIn imp = f.getImplementor();
>>                 if (imp != null && imp instanceOf ReversibleBuiltIn ) {
>>                     
>> ((ReversibleBuiltIn)imp).reverseHeadAction(f.getBoundArgs(env), 
>> f.getArgLength(), context);
>>                 }
>>             } else if (hClause instanceof Rule) {
>>                 Rule r = (Rule)hClause;
>>                 if (r.isBackward()) {
>>                     if (isAdd) {
>>                         infGraph.addBRule(r.instantiate(env));
>>                     } else {
>>                         infGraph.deleteBRule(r.instantiate(env));
>>                     }
>>                 } else {
>>                     throw new ReasonerException("Found non-backward subrule 
>> : " + r);
>>                 }
>>             }
>>         }
>>     }
>> 
>> 
>> Does it sounds good for you ? If yes, we will do these improvements, and a 
>> ticket in Jira and send the patch for validation.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> Christophe FAGOT, PhD
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>>> Le 20 mars 2014 à 16:20, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 20/03/14 10:59, Christophe FAGOT wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Le 20 mars 2014 à 11:20, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> a écrit 
>>>> :
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 20/03/14 09:46, Christophe FAGOT wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 19 mars 2014 à 18:46, Dave Reynolds <[email protected]> a 
>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 19/03/14 16:46, Christophe FAGOT wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jena folks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> since I need to use Jena with its RETEEngine, I’m actually 
>>>>>>>> investigating what is actually feasible / usable with this engine 
>>>>>>>> functionalities.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to develop my own BuiltIn, used in the head of a forward 
>>>>>>>> rule, and doing some actions when a new rule context appears (due to 
>>>>>>>> triples adding) for the body rule, while doing some other actions when 
>>>>>>>> a rule context disappears (dur to triples removal) for this body rule.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It appears in the RETEConflictSet (line 180) that a BuiltIn can 
>>>>>>>> receive only … added RETERuleContext. Hence a BuiltIn action can only 
>>>>>>>> be called when a RETERuleContext is added, never when a 
>>>>>>>> RETERuleContext is removed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is their a reason for that ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The existing head builtins expect to only be fired when a potitive 
>>>>>>> deduction is made. This is a legacy of the fact that the rule system 
>>>>>>> was designed for monotonic inference and all the remove/non-monotonic 
>>>>>>> processing is a hack.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t see the relationship between monotonic inference and remove 
>>>>>> prohibited. A monotonic inference only means that when adding some facts 
>>>>>> in the knowledge base, the previous inferred data can’t be removed, 
>>>>>> while when removing some facts, new facts can’t be produced. And this is 
>>>>>> exactly what Jena Rete engine perfectly does with « standard » triple 
>>>>>> patterns. But when the head is a BuiltIn, that BuiltIn does not have a 
>>>>>> single chance to act the same way. The BuildIn can only react to added 
>>>>>> triples. And the only mandatory thing for a BuiltIn is to declare is it 
>>>>>> is monotonic or not. But it’s behavior and the triples it adds/removes 
>>>>>> in the inference graph are never verified to check if it really has a 
>>>>>> (non-)monotonic behavior. But this is another story.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The point is that builtins in the head are only useful if they have some 
>>>>> side effect. Jena indeed handles removes when the rules are monotonic. As 
>>>>> soon as you have side-effecting builtins then all bets are off. Even if a 
>>>>> builtin's effect is reversible (which I take to be the case you are 
>>>>> interested in) it's hard to guarantee all the necessary rules will fire 
>>>>> in "remove" mode in the way you expect without the rule equivalent of 
>>>>> reference counting.
>>>> 
>>>> Absolutely agree. Would you be open to some little modifications in the 
>>>> RETE classes source code, if that modifications improve the ability to 
>>>> extend the RETE behavior (or to correct the problem of memory 
>>>> consumption), while preserving the actual behavior of existing rules sets 
>>>> using BuiltIn (hence, receiving only added data) ?
>>> 
>>> Sure, patches welcome.
>>> 
>>> I believe the right workflow would be to open a jira entry/ies for your 
>>> enhancement and attach the changes as patch fines.
>>> 
>>> Warning: I'm petty overloaded right now [*] so may need prompting to review 
>>> any patches.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> [*] For values of "right now" that seem to be depressingly permanent!
>> 
>> 

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