I uploaded that data using the Fuseki control panel, to a new named graph
with the URI:
http://<ip>/<datasetname>/homelessness/homelessness-acceptances/ethnicity
So the triples from the .nt dump were now stored inside a new named graph
on my Fuseki server? All of the queries are being performed
manually/directly using the Fuseki control panel.
The result of the following query is a list of the graphs stored; including
the URI above - SELECT * { GRAPH ?g {} }
As for the query that failed (Wrong results? Query processor crashed?),
there was no error or crash just zero results.
Finally, the last query you gave me returns a list of graphs (like the one
above) with the total number of triples for each, as expected?
On 12 February 2015 at 14:15, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/02/15 11:24, Richard Davenport wrote:
>
>> I didn't change anything from the data downloaded here -
>> http://opendatacommunities.org/data/homelessness/
>> homelessness-acceptances/ethnicity/dump
>>
>
> which has no named graphs that I can find.
>
> How did you load the data? If yu loa
> What is the result of
>
> SELECT * { GRAPH ?g {} }
>
> You do not need to change the query unless you made a named graph to match
> that name. The data above is not a named graph.
>
> Graph ?G does work correctly like so:
>> SELECT DISTINCT ?G ?o
>> WHERE
>> {
>> GRAPH ?G
>> { ?s ?p ?o}
>> }
>>
>> But the WHERE in the second query you gave me (here
>> http://markmail.org/message/427lyslfsworvnet) also included the
>> following,
>> which broke it:
>> ?property (rdfs:subPropertyOf)* dim:refPeriod .
>> ?rp rdfs:label ?label
>>
>
> Wrong results? Query processor crashed?
>
> I'm afraid the details so far might make sense to you but I don't know
> your system/workflow as well.
>
> Named graphs definitely exist on the server and I am able to return some
>> data. As I said, the problem only seems to come when other
>> prefixes/ontologies are used inside the query?
>>
>> The query you gave me in your last post (suggest numbering them from now
>> on
>> for simplicity?) has broken syntax.
>>
>
> I can't test all queries ... add an extra "}" to the UNION line.
>
> SELECT ?g (count(*) AS ?C)
> { { ?s ?p ?o } UNION { GRAPH ?g { ?s ?p ?o } } }
> GROUP BY ?g
>
> What are the results of that query?
>
>
>
>> On 11 February 2015 at 22:23, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/02/15 22:00, Richard Davenport wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding my previous queries/posts - http://###/ was replaced with the
>>>> correct URL of my server in previous queries. The data exists on my
>>>> server
>>>> at an IRI different to the original (opendatacommuni.....), so I changed
>>>> the GRAPH prefix to select that. Your reply seems to suggest I should be
>>>> doing something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Did you change the data you loaded into the database at all? Is there a
>>> link to the data you loaded?
>>>
>>> Your first query returns results (though just rp as each distinct
>>> subject,
>>>
>>>> rather than objects that are a subPropertyOf refPeriod).
>>>>
>>>> The second doesn't return any?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If GRAPH ?G does not return anything, maybe there are no named graphs
>>> despite datacommunities having them.
>>>
>>> Try this (slow) query:
>>>
>>> SELECT ?g (count(*) AS ?C)
>>> { { ?s ?p ?o } UNION { GRAPH ?g { ?s ?p ?o } }
>>> GROUP BY ?g
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Listing graphs in the usual way (removing the first two lines/filters
>>>> inside WHERE from your second query) works just fine?
>>>>
>>>> On 11 February 2015 at 21:19, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/02/15 20:48, Richard Davenport wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincere apologies - that is messed up and not how I drafted it! >.<
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, my point was that queries return sane results - except for
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> involving rdfs: to define what a label is (or any other IRI
>>>>>> originating
>>>>>> from a different/remote server). Therefore could there be an issue
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> Fuseki server retrieving ontologies and such from sources outside of
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> own network? How might I positively identify that? It seems strange
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>> get no warnings or errors?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The log file will have errors. If you have a OntModel, it may look
>>>>> up
>>>>> owl:imports.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if you have a restored copy of the opendatacommunities database,
>>>>> into
>>>>> TDB, no special processing wrapper, then nothing is being looked up
>>>>> outside
>>>>> the server. and for a query, then ontologies are not looked up, the
>>>>> names
>>>>> are just used.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you change PREFIX tgt: <http://###/whatever>
>>>>> then
>>>>>
>>>>> GRAPH tgt:
>>>>> { ?subject ?property ?rp}
>>>>>
>>>>> is the same as
>>>>>
>>>>> GRAPH <http://###/whatever>
>>>>> { ?subject ?property ?rp}
>>>>>
>>>>> If the original data was in graph
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://opendatacommunities.org/graph/homelessness/
>>>>> homelessness-acceptances/ethnicity>
>>>>>
>>>>> then it is still a graph of that name in the copied database.
>>>>>
>>>>> GRAPH <http://###/whatever> will fail.
>>>>> GRAPH <<http://opendatacommunities.org/...> will work.
>>>>>
>>>>> GRAPH is just setting the fourth field in all lookups for the quads
>>>>> table
>>>>> inside the {}.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does
>>>>>
>>>>> SELECT DISTINCT ?rp ?label
>>>>> WHERE
>>>>> { ?property (rdfs:subPropertyOf)* dim:refPeriod .
>>>>> ?rp rdfs:label ?label}
>>>>>
>>>>> work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Try also:
>>>>>
>>>>> SELECT DISTINCT ?G ?rp ?label
>>>>> WHERE
>>>>> { ?property (rdfs:subPropertyOf)* dim:refPeriod .
>>>>> ?rp rdfs:label ?label
>>>>> GRAPH ?G
>>>>> { ?subject ?property ?rp}
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:27, Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/02/15 15:48, Richard Davenport wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *PREFIX tgt:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://###/odc/homelessness/homelessness-acceptances/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ethnicity>SELECT
>>>>>>>> DISTINCT ?rp ?labelWHERE { ?rp rdfs:label ?label GRAPH tgt:
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> ?subject <http://opendatacommunities.org/def/ontology/time/
>>>>>>>> refPeriod
>>>>>>>> <http://opendatacommunities.org/def/ontology/time/refPeriod>> ?rp}
>>>>>>>> }ORDER
>>>>>>>> BY ?rpLIMIT 1Simplifying the query as suggested above still yields
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> results (or errors!). Yet, the following query works fine. The
>>>>>>>> inconsistent
>>>>>>>> behaviour is very confusing!SELECT DISTINCT ?rpWHERE { GRAPH tgt:
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> ?s <http://opendatacommunities.org/def/ontology/time/refPeriod
>>>>>>>> <http://opendatacommunities.org/def/ontology/time/refPeriod>> ?rp}
>>>>>>>> }ORDER
>>>>>>>> BY ?rpLIMIT 1This and a few other test queries indicate that the
>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>> is unable to get or otherwise process prefix's outside of it's own
>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>> (despite having otherwise normal internet access!)? How can I get
>>>>>>>> Fuseki
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> tell me whether this is the case? Are there any specific connection
>>>>>>>> protocol/variables required by Fuseki? I'll speak to the network
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> this side but if anyone has an idea please shout.Thanks also Bill
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> explanation of the cube dimension API. It's something that'll
>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> useful.Cheers,Richard.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unreadable!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's ### ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fuseki does not resolve prefixes. If you have a copy of the data
>>>>>>> unchanged, use the same prefixes as the original query. A prefix is
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> added to the local part to make an IRI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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