On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:04 AM Andy Seaborne <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On 17/09/18 15:26, ajs6f wrote:
> > Okay, I think we've got it. Nice debugging, Markus!
> >
> > If you look at the line of the spatial indexer code that is throwing an
> exception:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/jena/blob/master/jena-spatial/src/main/java/jena/spatialindexer.java#L110
> >
> > indeed, it does not start a transaction against the dataset before
> starting to read quads to index them. Now, in TDB1 this isn't inherently a
> problem-- it's possible to work against a dataset without transactions.
> (Although it's generally not a good idea at all.) But IIRC, TDB2 requires
> transactions. If that's true (and Andy can verify that for us) then this is
> a bug and we can fix it in a straightforward way.
> >
> > Andy, can you confirm that diagnosis?
>
> Yes - TDB2 only works transactionally.
>
>
Andy--

I am just looking at the file system, I noticed that there is no binary
difference between tdb and tdb2 indexes. would it be fair to describe tdb2
as a tdb+txn with different access methods?


>
> > If so, I'll open a ticket and write a PR to use a Txn method to fix this.
>
> which ajs6f has merged into the development system.
>
> >
> > ajs6f
> >
> >> On Sep 17, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Markus Neumann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It seems I made a mess with absolute and relative paths all together.
> So I created a minimal setup for testing:
> >> (I include the file-contents at the bottom)
> >>
> >> $ export JENA_HOME=/srv/linked_data_store/apache-jena-3.8.0
> >> $ export PATH=$PATH:$JENA_HOME/bin
> >> $ tdb2.tdbloader
> --desc=/srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> /srv/linked_data_store/rdf_python_connector/turtle_files/mm-loc-mini.ttl
> /srv/linked_data_store/rdf_python_connector/turtle_files/mm-rdf.ttl
> >> 13:50:54 INFO  loader               :: Loader = LoaderPhased
> >> 13:50:54 INFO  loader               :: Data:
> /srv/linked_data_store/rdf_python_connector/turtle_files/mm-loc-mini.ttl:
> 13 mm-loc-mini.ttl 0.06s (Avg: 232)
> >> 13:50:54 INFO  loader               :: Data:
> /srv/linked_data_store/rdf_python_connector/turtle_files/mm-rdf.ttl: 50
> mm-rdf.ttl 0.01s (Avg: 6,250)
> >> 13:50:55 INFO  loader               :: Finish - index SPO
> >> 13:50:55 INFO  loader               :: Start replay index SPO
> >> 13:50:55 INFO  loader               :: Index set:  SPO => SPO->POS,
> SPO->OSP
> >> 13:50:55 INFO  loader               :: Index set:  SPO => SPO->POS,
> SPO->OSP [63 items, 0.0 seconds]
> >> 13:50:55 INFO  loader               :: Finish - index POS
> >> 13:50:55 INFO  loader               :: Finish - index OSP
> >> $ java -cp
> /srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/fuseki-server.jar:/srv/linked_data_store/apache-jena-3.8.0/lib/*
> jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=/srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >> SLF4J: Class path contains multiple SLF4J bindings.
> >> SLF4J: Found binding in
> [jar:file:/srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/fuseki-server.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class]
> >> SLF4J: Found binding in
> [jar:file:/srv/linked_data_store/apache-jena-3.8.0/lib/slf4j-log4j12-1.7.25.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class]
> >> SLF4J: See http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#multiple_bindings for an
> explanation.
> >> SLF4J: Actual binding is of type [org.slf4j.impl.Log4jLoggerFactory]
> >> org.apache.jena.dboe.transaction.txn.TransactionException: Not in a
> transaction
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.dboe.transaction.txn.TransactionalComponentLifecycle.checkTxn(TransactionalComponentLifecycle.java:417)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.dboe.trans.bplustree.BPlusTree.getRootRead(BPlusTree.java:159)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.dboe.trans.bplustree.BPlusTree.iterator(BPlusTree.java:348)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.tupletable.TupleIndexRecord.all(TupleIndexRecord.java:251)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.tupletable.TupleTable.find(TupleTable.java:148)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.find(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:161)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.find(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:150)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.findAsNodeIds(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:141)
> >>      at org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.TripleTable.find(TripleTable.java:64)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.DatasetGraphTDB.findInDftGraph(DatasetGraphTDB.java:104)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphBaseFind.findAny(DatasetGraphBaseFind.java:72)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphBaseFind.find(DatasetGraphBaseFind.java:50)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphWrapper.find(DatasetGraphWrapper.java:152)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphWrapper.find(DatasetGraphWrapper.java:152)
> >>      at jena.spatialindexer.exec(spatialindexer.java:110)
> >>      at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainMethod(CmdMain.java:93)
> >>      at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainRun(CmdMain.java:58)
> >>      at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainRun(CmdMain.java:45)
> >>      at jena.spatialindexer.main(spatialindexer.java:53)
> >>
> >> I can get rid of the SLF4J warnings:
> >> $ java -cp /srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/fuseki-server.jar
> jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=/srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >> org.apache.jena.dboe.transaction.txn.TransactionException: Not in a
> transaction
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.dboe.transaction.txn.TransactionalComponentLifecycle.checkTxn(TransactionalComponentLifecycle.java:417)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.dboe.trans.bplustree.BPlusTree.getRootRead(BPlusTree.java:159)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.dboe.trans.bplustree.BPlusTree.iterator(BPlusTree.java:348)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.tupletable.TupleIndexRecord.all(TupleIndexRecord.java:251)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.tupletable.TupleTable.find(TupleTable.java:148)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.find(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:161)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.find(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:150)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.findAsNodeIds(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:141)
> >>      at org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.TripleTable.find(TripleTable.java:64)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.DatasetGraphTDB.findInDftGraph(DatasetGraphTDB.java:104)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphBaseFind.findAny(DatasetGraphBaseFind.java:72)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphBaseFind.find(DatasetGraphBaseFind.java:50)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphWrapper.find(DatasetGraphWrapper.java:152)
> >>      at
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphWrapper.find(DatasetGraphWrapper.java:152)
> >>      at jena.spatialindexer.exec(spatialindexer.java:110)
> >>      at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainMethod(CmdMain.java:93)
> >>      at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainRun(CmdMain.java:58)
> >>      at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainRun(CmdMain.java:45)
> >>      at jena.spatialindexer.main(spatialindexer.java:53)
> >>
> >> There is no other java instance running at the time when I run those
> commands.
> >> All paths are fully qualified and double checked. The destination
> directory and the Lucene directory were cleared just before.
> >>
> >> The server does start and serve the data without errors or warnings in
> the log, but spatial queries do not work.
> >>
> >> Does anyone see a reason for the TransactionException?
> >> Thanks and best regards
> >> Markus
> >>
> >> Attachments:
> >> /srv/linked_data_store/rdf_python_connector/turtle_files/mm-rdf.ttl:
> >> @prefix geo: <http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#> .
> >> @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
> >> @prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
> >> @prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#> .
> >> @prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> .
> >> @prefix dcterms: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> .
> >> @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>
> >> @prefix mm: <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> .
> >>
> >> <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/>
> >>     dcterms:publisher <http://api.meteomatics.com/Imprint.html> ;
> >>     dcterms:title "Meteomatics RDF Vocabulary"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:location a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "location" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "Location of a measurement"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:elevation a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "elevation" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "Elevation of a location"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:validdate a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "validdate" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "Temporal information describing when a
> Measurement is/was valid"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:value a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "value" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "The (observed or predicted) value of a
> Measurement"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:parameter a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "parameter" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "what was measured"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:station_name a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "station_name" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "Name of a station"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:abbreviation a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "abbreviation" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "Abbreviation of a station name"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:didok_id a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "didok_id" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "didok id of a station"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:unit_symbol a rdf:Property ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "unit symbol" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "unit symbol of a parameter"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:Measurement a rdf:Class ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "Measurement" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "Measurement of a specific weather parameter at
> specific location at a specific date (both future or past)" .
> >>
> >> mm:Location a rdf:Class ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "Location" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "A Point on the globe where we observe
> weather"@en .
> >>
> >> mm:Parameter a rdf:Class ;
> >>     rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> ;
> >>     rdfs:label "Parameter" ;
> >>     dcterms:description "A parameter describing an observable aspect of
> the weather"@en .
> >>
> >> /srv/linked_data_store/rdf_python_connector/turtle_files/mm-loc-mini.ttl
> >> @prefix geo: <http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#> .
> >> @prefix geosparql: <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#> .
> >> @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
> >> @prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
> >> @prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#> .
> >> @prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> .
> >> @prefix dcterms: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> .
> >> @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#> .
> >> @prefix mm: <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/> .
> >> @prefix mm-measurements: <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/measurements/>
> .
> >> @prefix mm-locations: <http://rdf.meteomatics.com/mm/locations/> .
> >>
> >>
> >> mm-locations:8500015 a mm:Location ;
> >>     a geosparql:Geometry ;
> >>     mm:didok_id 8500015 ;
> >>     geo:lat 47.54259 ;
> >>     geo:long 7.61574 ;
> >>     mm:elevation 273 .
> >>
> >>
> >> mm-locations:8504238 a mm:Location ;
> >>     a geosparql:Geometry ;
> >>     geosparql:asWKT "POINT(6.86466645231
> 47.0840196485)"^^geosparql:wktLiteral ;
> >>     mm:didok_id 8504238 ;
> >>     geo:lat 47.08402 ;
> >>     geo:long 6.86467 ;
> >>     mm:elevation 1086 .
> >>
> >> /srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >> @prefix :      <http://base/#> .
> >> @prefix rdf:   <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
> >> @prefix tdb2:  <http://jena.apache.org/2016/tdb#> .
> >> @prefix ja:    <http://jena.hpl.hp.com/2005/11/Assembler#> .
> >> @prefix rdfs:  <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
> >> @prefix fuseki: <http://jena.apache.org/fuseki#> .
> >> @prefix spatial: <http://jena.apache.org/spatial#> .
> >> @prefix geo: <http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#> .
> >> @prefix geosparql: <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#> .
> >> # Spatial
> >> #[] ja:loadClass "org.apache.jena.query.spatial.SpatialQuery" .
> >> #spatial:SpatialtDataset rdfs:subClassOf ja:RDFDataset .
> >> #spatial:SpatialIndexLucene rdfs:subClassOf spatial:SpatialIndex .
> >>
> >> :service_tdb_all  a                   fuseki:Service ;
> >>         rdfs:label                    "TDB2 mm" ;
> >>         fuseki:dataset                :spatial_dataset ;
> >>         fuseki:name                   "mm" ;
> >>         fuseki:serviceQuery           "query" , "sparql" ;
> >>         fuseki:serviceReadGraphStore  "get" ;
> >>         fuseki:serviceReadWriteGraphStore
> >>                 "data" ;
> >>         fuseki:serviceUpdate          "update" ;
> >>         fuseki:serviceUpload          "upload" .
> >>
> >> :spatial_dataset a spatial:SpatialDataset ;
> >>     spatial:dataset   :tdb_dataset_readwrite ;
> >>     spatial:index     <#indexLucene> ;
> >>     .
> >>
> >> <#indexLucene> a spatial:SpatialIndexLucene ;
> >>     spatial:directory <file:Lucene> ;
> >>     #spatial:directory "mem" ;
> >>     spatial:definition <#definition> ;
> >>     .
> >>
> >> <#definition> a spatial:EntityDefinition ;
> >>     spatial:entityField      "uri" ;
> >>     spatial:geoField     "geo" ;
> >>     # custom geo predicates for 1) Latitude/Longitude Format
> >>     spatial:hasSpatialPredicatePairs (
> >>          [ spatial:latitude geo:lat ; spatial:longitude geo:long ]
> >>          ) ;
> >>     # custom geo predicates for 2) Well Known Text (WKT) Literal
> >>     spatial:hasWKTPredicates (geosparql:asWKT) ;
> >>     #spatial:spatialContextFactory
> >> #         "com.spatial4j.core.context.jts.JtsSpatialContextFactory"
> >> #    "org.locationtech.spatial4j.context.jts.JtsSpatialContextFactory"
> >>     .
> >>
> >> :tdb_dataset_readwrite
> >>         a              tdb2:DatasetTDB2 ;
> >>         tdb2:location
> "/srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/run/databases/mm" .
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 17.09.2018 um 15:15 schrieb ajs6f <[email protected]>:
> >>>
> >>> I think you might have misunderstood the use of $JENA_HOME, or perhaps
> the Java classpath. $JENA_HOME, which should generally be an absolute
> filepath, allows the Jena scripts to find their libraries at runtime.
> Internally, the scripts use $JENA_HOME to set up the classpaths with which
> to start running Java code. But in this case, you're not using the scripts.
> You're calling a Java class directly, which means you have to give it all
> the libraries directly, using the classpath flag directly. For example,
> your second attempt:
> >>>
> >>> $ java -cp apache-jena-3.8.0/lib/* jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>> Error: Could not find or load main class
> apache-jena-3.8.0.lib.commons-cli-1.4.jar
> >>>
> >>> may have failed because whatever directory you are in probably doesn't
> happen to have a Jena distribution in it called "apache-jena-3.8.0".
> Perhaps try:
> >>>
> >>> java -cp $JENA_HOME/lib/* jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>
> >>> Your first example looks like it might be misusing the -cp flag [1].
> You probably don't want the *.jar, just *, like
> >>>
> >>> java -cp lib/* jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=../fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>
> >>> especially if you happen to be using Windows. [2] That might not be
> the entire story, but you can at least try those invocations and see if you
> get anything different/better.
> >>>
> >>> ajs6f
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/tools/windows/classpath.html#A1100762
> <
> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/tools/windows/classpath.html#A1100762
> >
> >>> [2]
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/219585/including-all-the-jars-in-a-directory-within-the-java-classpath
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/219585/including-all-the-jars-in-a-directory-within-the-java-classpath
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 7:07 AM, Markus Neumann <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, that's exactly what I did here:
> >>>> $ java -cp lib/*.jar jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=../fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>> Error: Could not find or load main class lib.commons-cli-1.4.jar
> >>>>
> >>>> Or from outside JENA_HOME:
> >>>> $ java -cp apache-jena-3.8.0/lib/* jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>> Error: Could not find or load main class
> apache-jena-3.8.0.lib.commons-cli-1.4.jar
> >>>>
> >>>> Or did I missunderstand something?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Am 17.09.2018 um 12:02 schrieb Marco Neumann <
> [email protected]>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> don't worry it's a common problem and frequent source of confusion
> not only
> >>>>> with jena but java projects. try to simply inlcude all the jars.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I presume you run this on a linux box with OpenJDK 8. correct?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> now once you have set up jena just add the following
> >>>>> {replace_with_your_path}/apache-jena-3.8.0/lib/*
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:56 AM Markus Neumann <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> This is embarrassing but I don't get it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've configured $JENA_HOME and adjusted the PATH.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now what classpath should I include when invoking the indexer?
> >>>>>> What I've tried so far:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> $ cd $JENA_HOME
> >>>>>> $ java -cp jena-spatial-3.8.0.jar jena.spatialindexer
> >>>>>> --desc=../fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>>>> Error: Could not find or load main class jena.spatialindexer
> >>>>>> $ java -cp lib/*.jar jena.spatialindexer
> >>>>>> --desc=../fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>>>> Error: Could not find or load main class lib.commons-cli-1.4.jar
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for your patience
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 17.09.2018 um 11:38 schrieb Marco Neumann <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> yes correct, this looks good. now include the classpath during
> invocation
> >>>>>>> of the spatialindexer
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> in addition it's always a good idea to properly configure jena
> along your
> >>>>>>> java runtime environment settings to avoid jdk / lib conflicts
> during
> >>>>>>> execution.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/tools/index.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/tools/index.html> <
> >>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/tools/index.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/tools/index.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/tools/index.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/tools/index.html>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:28 AM Markus Neumann <
> >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> <mailto:
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1.: what do you mean by indexer?
> >>>>>>>> Probably my biggest problem is, that I have no clue how to find
> out,
> >>>>>> where
> >>>>>>>> the jena.spatialindexer could be located except for asking here.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here is the content of the apache jena I downloaded:
> >>>>>>>> $ ls -lh ../apache-jena-3.8.0/lib
> >>>>>>>> total 17M
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 162K Oct 26  2017 collection-0.7.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  53K Oct 26  2017 commons-cli-1.4.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 328K Mar  5  2018
> commons-codec-1.11.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 576K Jun 25 09:59
> commons-compress-1.17.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  41K Mar  5  2018 commons-csv-1.5.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 210K Mar  5  2018 commons-io-2.6.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 425K Oct 26  2017
> commons-lang3-3.4.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 749K Jun 25 10:01
> httpclient-4.5.5.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 158K Jun 25 10:01
> >>>>>> httpclient-cache-4.5.5.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 318K Jun 25 10:01 httpcore-4.4.9.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  65K Oct 26  2017
> >>>>>>>> jackson-annotations-2.9.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 315K Jun 25 10:01
> jackson-core-2.9.5.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 1.3M Jun 25 10:01
> >>>>>> jackson-databind-2.9.5.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  17K Oct 26  2017
> jcl-over-slf4j-1.7.25.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 2.9M Jun 25 11:03 jena-arq-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 211K Jun 25 11:01 jena-base-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 259K Jun 25 11:07 jena-cmds-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 1.7M Jun 25 11:02 jena-core-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 135K Jun 25 11:05
> jena-dboe-base-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  21K Jun 25 11:05
> jena-dboe-index-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  74K Jun 25 11:05
> >>>>>>>> jena-dboe-transaction-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  95K Jun 25 11:06
> >>>>>>>> jena-dboe-trans-data-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 135K Jun 25 11:01 jena-iri-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  49K Jun 25 11:04
> >>>>>> jena-rdfconnection-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 2.8M Jun 25 11:01
> >>>>>> jena-shaded-guava-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 264K Jun 25 11:06 jena-tdb2-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 512K Jun 25 11:04 jena-tdb-3.8.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 1.6M Jun 25 10:01
> jsonld-java-0.12.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 232K Mar  5  2018
> libthrift-0.10.0.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process 479K Oct 26  2017 log4j-1.2.17.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  41K Oct 26  2017
> slf4j-api-1.7.25.jar
> >>>>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 process process  12K Oct 26  2017
> slf4j-log4j12-1.7.25.jar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2.: Turns out, I don't need the jts. after commenting out the
> affected
> >>>>>>>> lines, the server still runs fine. (But still without spatial
> index)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best Markus
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Am 17.09.2018 um 11:14 schrieb Marco Neumann <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ok let's take a look at this.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. please include in the indexer in the classpath. It's part of
> the
> >>>>>>>> current
> >>>>>>>>> jena distribution.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. do you need jts? it's a package that allows you to index
> multi point
> >>>>>>>>> geometries. here a sample query would be helpful. If single point
> >>>>>>>>> geometries are indexed and used in conjunction with MBR range
> queries.
> >>>>>>>>> there is no need for jts.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 9:14 AM Markus Neumann <
> >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>> (sorry for the long post)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've been struggling with the spatial index for a while now.
> >>>>>>>>>> I've read
> >>>>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>> <
> >>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>>> <
> >>>>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>> <
> >>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html
> <https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>> <
> >>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>>> <
> >>>>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>> <
> >>>>>> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html> <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html <
> https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/spatial-query.html>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> skipped through about every spatial related thread here on the
> list.
> >>>>>>>>>> I managed to get an in-memory version up and running at some
> point
> >>>>>>>>>> following this
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>> <
> >>>>>>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> ><
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> <
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45814956/building-geospatial-index-when-working-with-jena-fuseki/52099066#52099066
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> and this
> >>>>>>>>>>
> https://ceyxstudios.com/2017/11/25/rdf-datenbank-mit-geo-funktionen/ <
> https://ceyxstudios.com/2017/11/25/rdf-datenbank-mit-geo-funktionen/> <
> https://ceyxstudios.com/2017/11/25/rdf-datenbank-mit-geo-funktionen/ <
> https://ceyxstudios.com/2017/11/25/rdf-datenbank-mit-geo-funktionen/>>
> >>>>>> <
> https://ceyxstudios.com/2017/11/25/rdf-datenbank-mit-geo-funktionen/> <
> >>>>>>>>
> https://ceyxstudios.com/2017/11/25/rdf-datenbank-mit-geo-funktionen/> <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> https://ceyxstudios.com/2017/11/25/rdf-datenbank-mit-geo-funktionen/>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But that was on a small dataset that I uploaded via the
> web-interface
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>> Fuseki.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Now the story is a bit different. I'm building the database
> using
> >>>>>>>>>> tdbloader2 and would like to create the spatial index upfront.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> java -cp jena-spatial.jar jena.spatialindexer
> --desc=assembler_file
> >>>>>>>>>> I could not figure out, how to get this line to work. I have the
> >>>>>>>> following
> >>>>>>>>>> possible scenarios:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. I download the jena-spatial-3.8.0.jar and specify that in the
> >>>>>>>> classpath:
> >>>>>>>>>> $ java -cp jena-spatial-3.8.0.jar jena.spatialindexer
> >>>>>>>>>> --desc=../fuseki-server/run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>>>>>>>> Error: Could not find or load main class jena.spatialindexer
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2. I use the fuseki-server jar:
> >>>>>>>>>> $ java -cp fuseki-server.jar jena.spatialindexer
> >>>>>>>>>> --desc=./run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>>>>>>>> WARN  Custom SpatialContextFactory lib is not ready in
> >>>>>>>>>> classpath:com/vividsolutions/jts/geom/CoordinateSequenceFactory
> >>>>>>>>>> org.apache.jena.dboe.transaction.txn.TransactionException: Not
> in a
> >>>>>>>>>> transaction
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I managed to eliminate the warning about jts by including that
> in the
> >>>>>>>>>> classpath, but the error remains the same (with full trace):
> >>>>>>>>>> java -cp fuseki-server.jar:jts-1.13.jar jena.spatialindexer
> >>>>>>>>>> --desc=./run/configuration/mm.ttl
> >>>>>>>>>> org.apache.jena.dboe.transaction.txn.TransactionException: Not
> in a
> >>>>>>>>>> transaction
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.dboe.transaction.txn.TransactionalComponentLifecycle.checkTxn(TransactionalComponentLifecycle.java:417)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.dboe.trans.bplustree.BPlusTree.getRootRead(BPlusTree.java:159)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.dboe.trans.bplustree.BPlusTree.iterator(BPlusTree.java:348)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.tupletable.TupleIndexRecord.all(TupleIndexRecord.java:251)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.tupletable.TupleTable.find(TupleTable.java:148)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.find(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:161)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.find(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:150)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.findAsNodeIds(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:141)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.TripleTable.find(TripleTable.java:64)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.tdb2.store.DatasetGraphTDB.findInDftGraph(DatasetGraphTDB.java:104)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphBaseFind.findAny(DatasetGraphBaseFind.java:72)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphBaseFind.find(DatasetGraphBaseFind.java:50)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphWrapper.find(DatasetGraphWrapper.java:152)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> org.apache.jena.sparql.core.DatasetGraphWrapper.find(DatasetGraphWrapper.java:152)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at jena.spatialindexer.exec(spatialindexer.java:110)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainMethod(CmdMain.java:93)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainRun(CmdMain.java:58)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at jena.cmd.CmdMain.mainRun(CmdMain.java:45)
> >>>>>>>>>>    at jena.spatialindexer.main(spatialindexer.java:53)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> My configuration is the following:
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix :      <http://base/#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix rdf:   <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix tdb2:  <http://jena.apache.org/2016/tdb#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix ja:    <http://jena.hpl.hp.com/2005/11/Assembler#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix rdfs:  <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix fuseki: <http://jena.apache.org/fuseki#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix spatial: <http://jena.apache.org/spatial#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix geo: <http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> @prefix geosparql: <http://www.opengis.net/ont/geosparql#> .
> >>>>>>>>>> # Spatial
> >>>>>>>>>> [] ja:loadClass "org.apache.jena.query.spatial.SpatialQuery" .
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:SpatialtDataset rdfs:subClassOf ja:RDFDataset .
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:SpatialIndexLucene rdfs:subClassOf spatial:SpatialIndex
> .
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> :service_tdb_all  a                   fuseki:Service ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    rdfs:label                    "TDB2 mm" ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    fuseki:dataset                :spatial_dataset ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    fuseki:name                   "mm" ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    fuseki:serviceQuery           "query" , "sparql" ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    fuseki:serviceReadGraphStore  "get" ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    fuseki:serviceReadWriteGraphStore
> >>>>>>>>>>            "data" ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    fuseki:serviceUpdate          "update" ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    fuseki:serviceUpload          "upload" .
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> :spatial_dataset a spatial:SpatialDataset ;
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:dataset   :tdb_dataset_readwrite ;
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:index     <#indexLucene> ;
> >>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <#indexLucene> a spatial:SpatialIndexLucene ;
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:directory <file:Lucene> ;
> >>>>>>>>>> #spatial:directory "mem" ;
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:definition <#definition> ;
> >>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <#definition> a spatial:EntityDefinition ;
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:entityField      "uri" ;
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:geoField     "geo" ;
> >>>>>>>>>> # custom geo predicates for 1) Latitude/Longitude Format
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:hasSpatialPredicatePairs (
> >>>>>>>>>>     [ spatial:latitude geo:lat ; spatial:longitude geo:long ]
> >>>>>>>>>>     ) ;
> >>>>>>>>>> # custom geo predicates for 2) Well Known Text (WKT) Literal
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:hasWKTPredicates (geosparql:asWKT) ;
> >>>>>>>>>> # custom SpatialContextFactory for 2) Well Known Text (WKT)
> Literal
> >>>>>>>>>> spatial:spatialContextFactory
> >>>>>>>>>> #
>  "com.spatial4j.core.context.jts.JtsSpatialContextFactory"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> "org.locationtech.spatial4j.context.jts.JtsSpatialContextFactory"
> >>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> :tdb_dataset_readwrite
> >>>>>>>>>>    a              tdb2:DatasetTDB2 ;
> >>>>>>>>>>    tdb2:location
> >>>>>>>>>> "/srv/linked_data_store/fuseki-server/run/databases/mm" .
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And I've changed the fuseki script to include the jts jar:
> >>>>>>>>>> FUSEKI_CLASSES=$FUSEKI_HOME/jts-1.13.jar
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I see no errors or warnings in the server log, when starting
> with that
> >>>>>>>>>> configuration, the Lucene folder is created and populated with
> >>>>>>>> something:
> >>>>>>>>>> $ ll run/configuration/Lucene/
> >>>>>>>>>> total 4
> >>>>>>>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 process process 71 Sep 14 09:28 segments_1
> >>>>>>>>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 process process  0 Sep 14 09:28 write.lock
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But any spatial query does not return any results.
> >>>>>>>>>> Any help on how to tackle this would be highly appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>> Markus Neumann
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>> Marco Neumann
> >>>>>>>>> KONA
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>> Marco Neumann
> >>>>>>> KONA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> Marco Neumann
> >>>>> KONA
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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