Hi Vincent,

I’ll be happy to review the changes also. Best to have a user that has recent 
experience with the deficits in the current docs make changes that clarify 
their issues.

Thanks,
Chris


> On Jan 18, 2019, at 12:09 PM, vincent ventresque 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi ajs6f
> 
> Thank you for your proposal, I'd be glad to contribute (as soon as I find a 
> moment, maybe next week).
> 
> By the way, I wrote a small tutorial (in french) for our project, and some 
> PHP code to use with Fuseki + a sample dataset (data from french national 
> library). I consider translating the tuto into English, because I think 
> Fuseki is great to learn RDF and LOD : do you think s.o could be interested 
> in reviewing the tuto?
> 
> Vincent
> 
> Le 18/01/2019 à 18:30, ajs6f a écrit :
>> Hi, Vincent--
>> 
>> As mentioned in a recent thread, you needn't be a committer or have any 
>> other official role to improve that page. Just use the link in the upper 
>> right to submit your suggested changes, and I promise to review/commit them! 
>> (Probably with some help from Chris or Osma, who know the text-indexing 
>> machinery much much better than do I.)
>> 
>> ajs6f
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Vincent Ventresque 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> I'd like to add sthg about the documentation page : it's a bit laconic, and 
>>> I spent a few hours to understand that values have to be provided in config 
>>> file for dataset uri.
>>> 
>>> Furthermore, I had to search on Stackoverflow, and saw other users had the 
>>> same problem with jena-text config)
>>> 
>>> Maybe s.o. could add some explanations on this page?
>>> 
>>> -- give a value for dataset URI (replace <#dataset> with sthg like 
>>> :my_dataset)
>>> 
>>> -- give a path for Lucene index files => this will create a directory
>>> 
>>> -- give a path for TDB (tdb:location 
>>> "/home/.../fuseki/run/databases/My_dataset")
>>> 
>>> -- if you don't set environment variables, run fuseki after changing 
>>> directory ("cd My_Fuseki_install) and give relative paths for command 
>>> arguments (" --config=run/my_config.ttl ").
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 18/01/2019 à 17:13, Chris Tomlinson a écrit :
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> 1) If you’re using a default config, it does not have a working jena-text 
>>>> configuration. The config will need to  include skos:prefLabel in the 
>>>> entity map.
>>>> 
>>>> 2) when you change the jena-text in significant ways, such as changing 
>>>> what analyzer is used for a given property and so on, then you’ll need to 
>>>> rebuild the Lucene index via reloading the dataset or using the 
>>>> textIndexer 
>>>> <https://jena.apache.org/documentation/query/text-query.html#building-a-text-index>.
>>>>  I don’t recall this being mentioned as part of your testing
>>>> 
>>>> 3) Please indicate exactly which item you’re using 
>>>> jena-fuseki-war-3.9.0.war or jena-fuseki-webapp-3.9.0.jar etc, and the 
>>>> config file itself. The error you’ve mentioned previously:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jan 17 17:00:28 semantic-dev java[16800]: [2019-01-17 17:00:28] Config    
>>>>>  INFO  Load configuration: 
>>>>> file:///home/text/tools/apache-jena-fuseki-3.9.0/run/configuration/text_index.ttl
>>>>>  
>>>>> <file:///home/text/tools/apache-jena-fuseki-3.9.0/run/configuration/text_index.ttl>
>>>>> Jan 17 17:00:28 semantic-dev java[16800]: [2019-01-17 17:00:28] 
>>>>> WebAppContext WARN  Failed startup of context 
>>>>> o.e.j.w.WebAppContext@4159e81b{Apache Jena Fuseki 
>>>>> Server,/,file:///home/text/tools/apache-jena-fuseki-3.9.0/webapp/,UNAVAILABLE
>>>>>  <file:///home/text/tools/apache-jena-fuseki-3.9.0/webapp/,UNAVAILABLE>}
>>>>> Jan 17 17:00:28 semantic-dev java[16800]:         at 
>>>>> org.apache.jena.fuseki.build.FusekiConfig.readAssemblerFile(FusekiConfig.java:148)
>>>> suggests to me that something in the config file is confusing the 
>>>> readAssemblerFile. It doesn’t look like it’s failing in the reading the 
>>>> jena-text portion of the config.
>>>> 
>>>> If http://api.finto.fi/download/mesh/mesh-skos.ttl 
>>>> <http://api.finto.fi/download/mesh/mesh-skos.ttl> the dataset, then can 
>>>> you cut it down to just a small test case with some concepts with “medi” 
>>>> and a few without? That along with the other information should help move 
>>>> this further along..
>>>> 
>>>> 4) Your query:
>>>> 
>>>>> PREFIX skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core# 
>>>>> <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#>>
>>>>> PREFIX text: <http://jena.apache.org/text# <http://jena.apache.org/text#>>
>>>>> SELECT *
>>>>> WHERE
>>>>> {
>>>>>   GRAPH <http://www.yso.fi/onto/mesh/ <http://www.yso.fi/onto/mesh/>>
>>>>>   {
>>>>>     ?concept text:query (skos:prefLabel "medi") .
>>>>>     ?concept skos:prefLabel ?prefLabel .
>>>>> 
>>>>>     # FILTER (  REGEX(?prefLabel, "\\bmedi", "i"))
>>>>>   }
>>>>> }
>>>>> limit 10
>>>> might effectively just be executing:
>>>> 
>>>>> ?concept skos:prefLabel ?prefLabel .
>>>> if there is actually no jena-text config - I haven’t checked what happens 
>>>> when there is no TextIndex configured and the text:query is invoked, but 
>>>> may be a noop
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Mikael Pesonen <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 18/01/2019 13:40, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/01/2019 15:45, Mikael Pesonen wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/01/2019 17:38, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2019 12:51, Mikael Pesonen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2019 13:58, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2019 12:50, Mikael Pesonen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get text search work. Sparql REGEX takes few seconds 
>>>>>>>>>>> to finish so hoping this would be faster. Application is term 
>>>>>>>>>>> search using SKOS ontology.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>   First tested if it's enabled by default
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>   ?concept text:query (skos:prefLabel "medi") .
>>>>>>>>>>>    ?concept skos:prefLabel ?prefLabel
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That returns all concepts so I guess it's not enabled.
>>>>>>>>>> If it returns all concepts, the first line matched (otherwise you 
>>>>>>>>>> get none). If so, there is a text index and "medi" (case 
>>>>>>>>>> insensitive) matches Lucene rules, everything.
>>>>>>>>> What does this mean then, why is it matching everything?
>>>>>>>> If zero matches, you don't get to ?concept skos:prefLabel ?prefLabel 
>>>>>>>> (if the text index is correct)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The query above, if the index is setup correctly,  gets all concepts 
>>>>>>>> where any skos:prefLabel matches "medi" (not just at the start), then 
>>>>>>>> gets all skos:prefLabel for those concepts. That does not mean 
>>>>>>>> ?prefLabel only matches "medi"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> :c skos:prefLabel "medi" ;
>>>>>>>>    skos:prefLabel "Other" .
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> will return 2 matches including ?prefLabel="Other"
>>>>>>> Yes that is how I understood it. But  ?concept text:query 
>>>>>>> (skos:prefLabel "medi")  returns all concepts, also those that don't 
>>>>>>> have any label having "medi".
>>>>>> Then I don't understand what is going on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do you have a complete, minimal example that someone can use to recreate 
>>>>>> the situation?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> This is the query:
>>>>> 
>>>>> PREFIX skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#>
>>>>> PREFIX text: <http://jena.apache.org/text#>
>>>>> SELECT *
>>>>> WHERE
>>>>> {
>>>>>   GRAPH <http://www.yso.fi/onto/mesh/>
>>>>>   {
>>>>>     ?concept text:query (skos:prefLabel "medi") .
>>>>>     ?concept skos:prefLabel ?prefLabel .
>>>>> 
>>>>>     # FILTER (  REGEX(?prefLabel, "\\bmedi", "i"))
>>>>>   }
>>>>> }
>>>>> limit 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> and graph is dump copied from here:  https://finto.fi/mesh/en/
>>>>> end of page "Download this vocabulary"
>>>>> 
>>>>> So to make clear, we have made zero configuration on jena/fuseki, all is 
>>>>> default from 3.9.0 package.
>>>>>> Andy
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