Hi, Luke,

Thanks for the analysis. We are trying to put a public statement on this
through this PR: https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/388. If anyone
has more feedback, we can iterate on the PR.

Thanks,

Jun


On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 7:53 AM Murilo Tavares <murilo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about Kafka-Connect?
> Anyone has checked if any of the Confluent KafkaConnect docker images embed
> log4j v2?
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 21:39, Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here's the comments for CVE-2021-44228 vulnerability *from SLF4J
> project*.
> > REF: http://slf4j.org/log4shell.html
> >
> > I think it's a analysis that worth reading. Most importantly, it has
> > comments about log4j 1.x versions, which is currently Kafka used.
> > I quote some sentences here for your reference:
> >
> > 1. As *log4j 1.x *does NOT offer a JNDI look up mechanism at the message
> > level,* it does NOT suffer from CVE-2021-44228.*
> > 2. However, log4j 1.x comes with JMSAppender which will perform a JNDI
> > lookup if enabled in log4j's configuration file, i.e. *log4j.properties*
> or
> > *log4j.xml*.
> > 3. In the absence of a new log4j 1.x release, you can remove JMSAppender
> > from the *log4j-1.2.17.jar* artifact yourself. (commands are listed in
> the
> > page <http://slf4j.org/log4shell.html>)
> > 4. Therefore, in addition to hardening KNOWN vulnerable components in
> > aforementioned frameworks, we also recommend that *configuration files be
> > protected against write access*. In Unix-speak they should be *read-only
> > for all users, including the owner*. If possible, they should also be
> > monitored against changes and unauthorized manipulation.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Luke
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 12:55 AM David Ballano Fernandez <
> > dfernan...@demonware.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks guys!
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 7:43 AM Brian Rickabaugh <br...@rickabaugh.net
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >   I strongly recommend that the Kafka community publish a statement
> on
> > > this
> > > > vulnerability.
> > > >
> > > > This Log4J exploit is getting a lot of publicity in my organization
> > and a
> > > > page to point our security team to would be very helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > Quoting Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Due to this vulnerability is quite critical and "popular" in these
> > > days,
> > > > > should *Kafka have an official announcement in our security cve
> list
> > > page
> > > > > or somewhere*? (i.e.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__kafka.apache.org_cve-2Dlist&d=DwIFaQ&c=qE8EibqjfXM-zBfebVhd4gtjNZbrDcrKYXvb1gt38s4&r=p-f3AJg4e4Uk20g_16kSyBtabT4JOB-1GIb23_CxD58&m=bgQoydMIn6_TMXjRt2Jw8AUS-IPeFX07xSqA4ONmNUDFJXnB5xNHw7TFiy6UD4gP&s=lGTK9XqyO0i5KkSD6aOpmRxCVx90zrXNRtOq0vtSPSc&e=
> > > > )
> > > > >
> > > > > So far, my assessment is that, Kafka is not using log4j 2.x
> versions,
> > > so
> > > > > the risk is lower.
> > > > > Kafka is using log4j 1.x version. As long as users don't set the
> jms
> > > > > appender, with the *TopicBindingName* or
> > > > > *TopicConnectionFactoryBindingName
> > > > > *configured with the JNDI can handle (ex: "ldap://host:port/a";), it
> > is
> > > > > safe. (usually we don't set the topic name or factory name to this
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > for name)
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing to add is that, we are currently working on upgrading
> > log4j 1
> > > > to
> > > > > log4j 2 (KAFKA-9366 <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_KAFKA-2D9366&d=DwIFaQ&c=qE8EibqjfXM-zBfebVhd4gtjNZbrDcrKYXvb1gt38s4&r=p-f3AJg4e4Uk20g_16kSyBtabT4JOB-1GIb23_CxD58&m=bgQoydMIn6_TMXjRt2Jw8AUS-IPeFX07xSqA4ONmNUDFJXnB5xNHw7TFiy6UD4gP&s=wNhgW9w7vSqIYgBLQ1iOcfBsQg3vHcPHxChyXqQ2-K0&e=
> > > > >),
> > > > > and we'll make sure it upgrades to 2.15.0 or newer versions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > Luke
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 12:00 PM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi David Ballano Fernandez and all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Some update here:
> > > > >> Based on @TopStreamsNet's comment here:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_logging-2Dlog4j2_pull_608-23issuecomment-2D991723301&d=DwIFaQ&c=qE8EibqjfXM-zBfebVhd4gtjNZbrDcrKYXvb1gt38s4&r=p-f3AJg4e4Uk20g_16kSyBtabT4JOB-1GIb23_CxD58&m=bgQoydMIn6_TMXjRt2Jw8AUS-IPeFX07xSqA4ONmNUDFJXnB5xNHw7TFiy6UD4gP&s=z2x4txhlSwAoPNTeuYxZH8IVCHoGkhLsfbhWDH-SVG4&e=
> > > > >> log4j 1.x versions can still be vulnerable to this issue, but only
> > > when
> > > > >> the jms configuration: *TopicBindingName* or
> > > > >> *TopicConnectionFactoryBindingName* is set to something that JNDI
> > can
> > > > >> handle - for example "ldap://host:port/a";. In this way, JNDI will
> do
> > > > >> exactly the same thing it does for 2.x.
> > > > >> That is, *1.x is vulnerable, just attack vector is "safer" as it
> > > depends
> > > > >> on configuration rather than user input.*
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So, in short, as long as you're using Kafka, and not setting the
> jms
> > > > >> configuration: *TopicBindingName* or
> > > *TopicConnectionFactoryBindingName
> > > > >> *to
> > > > >> something that JNDI can handle, it is safe!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you.
> > > > >> Luke
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 4:23 PM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi David Ballano Fernandez,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks for reporting this issue. Yes, this is the most critical
> > 0-day
> > > > >>> vulnerability for security members.
> > > > >>> I've been investigating this CVE for a while, and I confirmed
> that*
> > > > >>> log4j 1.x versions are not affected by this vulnerability.*
> > > > >>> That is, *Kafka, which is using log4j 1.x, is not affected by
> this
> > > > >>> vulnerability*.
> > > > >>> So, users can safely use Kafka without worries! :)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> REF: Here, the PMC of log4j 2 comment on the PR to fix the
> > > > vulnerability
> > > > >>> here
> > > > >>>
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_logging-2Dlog4j2_pull_608-23issuecomment-2D990494126&d=DwIFaQ&c=qE8EibqjfXM-zBfebVhd4gtjNZbrDcrKYXvb1gt38s4&r=p-f3AJg4e4Uk20g_16kSyBtabT4JOB-1GIb23_CxD58&m=bgQoydMIn6_TMXjRt2Jw8AUS-IPeFX07xSqA4ONmNUDFJXnB5xNHw7TFiy6UD4gP&s=6RYStOYjw2vQZteGALeXGun6DVhCKcs539cR9tr3m8A&e=
> > > > >
> > > > >>> and said:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *Update (2021-12-11 09:09 JST): according to this analysis
> > > > >>> <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ceki_status_1469449618316533762&d=DwIFaQ&c=qE8EibqjfXM-zBfebVhd4gtjNZbrDcrKYXvb1gt38s4&r=p-f3AJg4e4Uk20g_16kSyBtabT4JOB-1GIb23_CxD58&m=bgQoydMIn6_TMXjRt2Jw8AUS-IPeFX07xSqA4ONmNUDFJXnB5xNHw7TFiy6UD4gP&s=ZhLYIdqAKXaVPEbVpd3uce5dtisDqwoWaji_UMVM5Es&e=
> > > > > by @ceki
> > > > >>> <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_ceki&d=DwIFaQ&c=qE8EibqjfXM-zBfebVhd4gtjNZbrDcrKYXvb1gt38s4&r=p-f3AJg4e4Uk20g_16kSyBtabT4JOB-1GIb23_CxD58&m=bgQoydMIn6_TMXjRt2Jw8AUS-IPeFX07xSqA4ONmNUDFJXnB5xNHw7TFiy6UD4gP&s=103KstS4K4BNNdpX7RDbGisXiPzc62Eq5yiO6DJgn8k&e=
> > > > > (the author of log4j 1.x), Log4j 1.x is not
> > > > >>> impacted, since it does not have lookups, and the JMS Appender
> only
> > > > >>> loads
> > > > >>> Strings from the remote server, not serialized objects.*
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> That is, log4j 1 is actually another project from log4j 2, and
> the
> > > > >>> author
> > > > >>> of the log4j 1 confirmed log4j 1 is not impacted by this
> > > vulnerability!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thank you
> > > > >>> *.*
> > > > >>> Luke
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 6:42 AM David Ballano Fernandez <
> > > > >>> dfernan...@demonware.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Hi All,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I wonder if you guys have heard about this vulnerability
> > > > >>>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.randori.com_blog_cve-2D2021-2D44228_&d=DwIFaQ&c=qE8EibqjfXM-zBfebVhd4gtjNZbrDcrKYXvb1gt38s4&r=p-f3AJg4e4Uk20g_16kSyBtabT4JOB-1GIb23_CxD58&m=bgQoydMIn6_TMXjRt2Jw8AUS-IPeFX07xSqA4ONmNUDFJXnB5xNHw7TFiy6UD4gP&s=TaOz7ebOBrjIW_i2K4MduRFI7vsBBUZMKr9B1K6JupI&e=
> > > >   affecting log4j v1 and
> > > > v2
> > > > >>>> as far as i can see kafka 2.7 and 2.8 are using log4j v1. which
> is
> > > > only
> > > > >>>> affected if using jms appender.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> any thoughts?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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