It's OK, don't tell me. I have been using KISS probably before you were born. 
If you want to do a proper job, you have to implement the whole spec. In other 
words it seems you can send only *certain* GET URLs to mobiles. Can you handle 
POST requests & variables? It sounds you don't use any stringtables or wap 
compression. How many SMS parts are you generating for a single push? PAP & SI 
variables determine delivery network, priority, validity period, etc. and it 
seems to me you are out of spec and abusing mobile phones (some of them may not 
even display it!).

That's fine if it works for you. Just make sure you mention all your 
constraints before suggesting the same approach to others.

Nikos
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Henri Hovi 
  To: Nikos Balkanas 
  Cc: Emmanuel CHANSON ; users 
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: HTTP connection URL through Binary SMS or PPG ?


  Target is to get phone opening a connection web-server to download something, 
You can use any compliers to compile the message or just simply construct the 
message by Yourself. With any link You like.

  I guarantee that just putting those couple of lines to Your code to build the 
message manually is more efficient than push XML to parser, compile it to WBXML 
and send it to the device. But of course, my script doesn't parse PAP messages, 
no need since why would I care about it since my aim is just to get the link to 
the device...

  Ever heard about term KISS ;) 



  --
  H








  2009/12/17 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>

    My God! Why did all these stupid kannel developers wrote 1000's of lines 
for a descent wbxml compiler? Tokens alone from the spec are ~200, patterns > 
500 and many rules to consider. I have rewritten kannel's wbxml compiler in 
flex and yacc for efficiency and you preach me about efficiency?

    I was not aware of any php wbxml library, but unless you just encode the 
same message over and over or use a library, there is no other way for you to 
do it. Good for you, bad for efficiency.

    BR,
    Nikos
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Henri Hovi 
      To: Nikos Balkanas 
      Cc: Emmanuel CHANSON ; users 
      Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:00 AM
      Subject: Re: HTTP connection URL through Binary SMS or PPG ?


      Well, I have aprx. ten lines and it works just fine ;) But for sure, sky 
is the limit in coding, so if I like, I think I can use several thousands lines 
as well to do the same, I just don't know if it's efficient or not ;) 


      --
      Henri


      2009/12/17 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>

        Just to clarify. There are php examples to do your own wbxml encoding 
through the sendsms interface, but the encoding is several hundred lines of 
code, not 10!
        Β 
        BR,
        Nikos
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Henri Hovi 
          To: Emmanuel CHANSON 
          Cc: users 
          Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:26 AM
          Subject: Re: HTTP connection URL through Binary SMS or PPG ?


          The flow You explain is correct, but after You have sent it to PPG, 
it will take care of sending the SMS..
          .
          So You just push the PAP message to the PPG url configured to Kannel. 
if You use PHP, You can use cUrl to do the communication between Your 
application and Kannel.

          Alternative solution is to build the message in Your application, it 
takes aprx. 10 lines of PHP code and then use the sendsms interface directly. 
Anyhow, I use the Kannel PPG.

          --
          Henri


          On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Emmanuel CHANSON 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            Thanks Henri,

            So if I understand well Wapbox is mandatory in this situation. At 
least to compile the PAP xml ? then send a SMS ?
            PPG can not be used alone for this task? I mean what are the 
necessary steps to perform:

            HTTP Interface ? -> PPG -> Wapbox -> SMS -> Mobile Station

            I have to check how to use PPG for this purpose. I will check the 
Kannel User Guide for this but basically:
            Is it possible through a PHP script (or whatever) to call an HTTP 
interface in order to make the PPG do this job?

            Regards,

            Emmanuel


            2009/12/16 Henri Hovi <[email protected]>

              You need to use PPG. The wapbox is just used to compile the PAP 
XML to "correct format", it's then forwarded as SMS to the device. 


              When the phone retrieves the URL, it does it based on it's own 
configuration, so it can use HTTP directly or WAP Gateway as proxy. In later 
case the wapbox can be used, but requires that the user has the Kannel 
configured as proxy. But normally operators has those already configured, so 
You don't need to worry about them.


              --
              Henri


              On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Emmanuel CHANSON 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Hello guys,

                I'm wondering how can I make a mobile openning an HTTP URL ?

                - by sending a SMS push with UDH parameter through sendsms 
interface ? which value to add in this case?
                - by using PPG from kannel ? which config in this case for PPG 
group?
                - others solution ?

                I saw many times WAP PUSH tutorials that show how to send a WAP 
PUSH SMS using PPG but do I have to do the same if I want to make a mobile 
openning an HTTP URL ? Whatever its properties because some mobile (old one) 
have to use WAP and wapbox, the recent ones use HTTP and doesn't need wapbox in 
this case.


                -- 
                Emmanuel

                CHANSON Emmanuel
                Mobile Nouvelle-CalΞΉdonie: +687.77.35.02 

                Mobile France: +33 (0) 6.68.03.89.56
                @email : [email protected]





              -- 
              Henri Hovi
              http://www.patidure.com
              http://patidure.blogspot.com




            -- 
            Emmanuel

            CHANSON Emmanuel
            Mobile Nouvelle-CalΞΉdonie: +687.77.35.02 

            Mobile France: +33 (0) 6.68.03.89.56
            @email : [email protected]




          -- 
          Henri Hovi
          http://www.patidure.com
          http://patidure.blogspot.com




      -- 
      Henri Hovi
      http://www.patidure.com
      http://patidure.blogspot.com




  -- 
  Henri Hovi
  http://www.patidure.com
  http://patidure.blogspot.com

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