Here is one other thought....

we do have the following setting on the core group.

sms-incoming-queue-limit = 0

The docs for this say "Value 0 means giving strict priority to outgoing
messages"  What exactly does this mean? Could this affect incoming DLRs (or
MOs for that matter) if we are doing a heavy volume of MTs?

Thanks again!

Jeff


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Jeff Thorn <[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes....that is exactly what I meant. Thanks Jason. I only set
> receive-port=0 on one of the transmitter binds as a test anyway. The others
> do not have that, but do have transceiver-mode = 0.
>
> In the PDU debug log, I am seeing a few occasional "got DLR but could not
> find message or was not interested in it" ERRORS but I don't think this is
> related. I am getting < 20 of these errors for over 3,000,000 DLRs received
> today. So I am not too concerned about these.
>
> The errors I am talking about "Window on receiver full" are not occurring
> in my logs. They are being reported to me by the SMSC operator. It is
> occurring on their end.
>
> Regardless, here is an excerpt of the PDU log that shows this error. Let
> me know if you want to see anything else. Thanks!
>
>
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: Optional parameter length read as 1
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: SMPP[s-send-1]: Got PDU:
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: SMPP PDU 0x2aaaadaf3fc0 dump:
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   type_name: deliver_sm
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   command_id: 5 = 0x00000005
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   command_status: 0 = 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   sequence_number: 3355750 =
> 0x00333466
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   service_type: "CMT"
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   source_addr_ton: 2 = 0x00000002
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   source_addr_npi: 1 = 0x00000001
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   source_addr: "XXXXXXXXXXX"
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   dest_addr_ton: 2 = 0x00000002
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   dest_addr_npi: 1 = 0x00000001
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   destination_addr: "XXXXX"
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   esm_class: 4 = 0x00000004
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   protocol_id: 0 = 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   priority_flag: 0 = 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   schedule_delivery_time: NULL
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   validity_period: NULL
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   registered_delivery: 0 =
> 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   replace_if_present_flag: 0 =
> 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   data_coding: 0 = 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   sm_default_msg_id: 0 = 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   sm_length: 122 = 0x0000007a
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   short_message:
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:    Octet string at 0x2aaaad657550:
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      len:  122
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      size: 123
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      immutable: 0
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 69 64 3a 30 35 37 31 36
> 34 30 39 31 39 20 73 75   id:0571640919 su
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 62 3a 30 30 31 20 64 6c
> 76 72 64 3a 30 30 31 20   b:001 dlvrd:001
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 73 75 62 6d 69 74 20 64
> 61 74 65 3a 31 33 31 31   submit date:1311
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 32 37 30 30 31 30 20 64
> 6f 6e 65 20 64 61 74 65   270010 done date
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 3a 31 33 31 31 32 37 30
> 30 31 30 20 73 74 61 74   :1311270010 stat
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 3a 44 45 4c 49 56 52 44
> 20 65 72 72 3a 30 30 30   :DELIVRD err:000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 20 74 65 78 74 3a 50 6c
> 65 61 73 65 20 6e 6f 74    text:Please not
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:      data: 65 20 74 68 61 74 20 77
> 65 20                     e that we
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:    Octet string dump ends.
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   message_state: 2 = 0x00000002
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   receipted_message_id: "22128c57"
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: SMPP PDU dump ends.
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: SMPP[s-send-1] handle_pdu, got DLR
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: DLR[mysql]: Looking for DLR
> smsc=s-send-1, ts=571640919, dst=XXXXXXXXXXX, type=1
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: sql: SELECT `mask`, `service`,
> `url`, `source`, `destination`, `boxc` FROM `dlr` WHERE `smsc`=? AND `ts`=?
>  LIMIT 1
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: column=mask buffer_type=3
> max_length=0 length=10
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: column=service buffer_type=253
> max_length=0 length=40
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: column=url buffer_type=253
> max_length=0 length=255
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: column=source buffer_type=253
> max_length=0 length=40
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: column=destination buffer_type=253
> max_length=0 length=40
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: column=boxc buffer_type=253
> max_length=0 length=40
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] WARNING: DLR[mysql]: DLR from
> SMSC<s-send-1> for DST<XXXXXXXXXXX> not found.
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] ERROR: SMPP[s-send-1]: got DLR but could
> not find message or was not interested in it id<571640919>
> dst<XXXXXXXXXXX>, type<1>
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: SMPP[s-send-1]: Sending PDU:
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG: SMPP PDU 0x2aaaaf7bfe20 dump:
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   type_name: deliver_sm_resp
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   command_id: 2147483653 =
> 0x80000005
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   command_status: 0 = 0x00000000
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   sequence_number: 3355750 =
> 0x00333466
> 2013-11-27 00:10:04 [18849] [19] DEBUG:   message_id: NULL
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jason Mule <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think he meant that he set receive-port = 0 on transmitters only and
>> he only expects DLRs to come through on receiver binds. For some
>> reason, he's getting DLRs on transmitter binds as well.
>>
>> Are you able to post your PDU logs? Just the sections with DLRs.
>>
>> On 27 November 2013 22:32, spameden <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Most likely that's because you set receiver-port = 0.
>> >
>> >
>> > Check your smsc log as well and post here any errors you find.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/11/27 Jeff Thorn <[email protected]>
>> >>
>> >> The SMSC Operator said they were getting "Window on receiver link full"
>> >> errors from us when trying to send DLRs. Is that possible?
>> >>
>> >> We are not using sqlbox and we do have the dlr table indexed. I will
>> >> confirm the version of kannel.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:52 PM, spameden <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2013/11/27 Jeff Thorn <[email protected]>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I see. So does that mean the the DLRs I am seeing on the transmit
>> binds
>> >>>> are only status 8s? Would the volume of 8 messages impact the
>> sending of
>> >>>> other status from the SMSC? I am trying to understand the cause of
>> the error
>> >>>> from the operator "Window on receiver link full".
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Window on receiver" means your sending rate is much higher than your
>> >>> operator allows you to.
>> >>>
>> >>> max-pending-submits - basically means "the window" - the number of
>> >>> submit_sm's without response.
>> >>> also there is throughput parameter which controls the actual number of
>> >>> submit_sm's per second (acknowledged).
>> >>>
>> >>> well, volume of DLR=8 is equal to number of MT's you're pushing.
>> >>>
>> >>> but kannel receives DLR=8 from bearerbox not the SMSC operator.
>> >>>
>> >>> do you use sqlbox at all? also try adding an index on dlr table
>> (smsc_id,
>> >>> ts).
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I appreciate your help with this. We are definitely doing a
>> considerable
>> >>>> volume. We do report the status of 8s. So I am thinking I may need
>> to tune
>> >>>> the mysql dlr database.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Most likely, try sending same amount of MTs without DLR and using
>> >>> internal kannel storage.
>> >>>
>> >>> Btw, what's the kannel version you're on? Better use latest revision
>> from
>> >>> SVN, it's considered to be production stable.
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:32 PM, spameden <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2013/11/27 Jeff Thorn <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The documentation says to set receive-port = 0 to disable I/O on
>> this
>> >>>>>> bind. I tested this on the one sample config I posted and it had
>> no effect.
>> >>>>>> Our other binds look like this and they too are receiving DLRs.
>> What should
>> >>>>>> be changed to make this a "pure transmitter bind"?  Will DLRs be
>> received on
>> >>>>>> pure transmitter binds?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's correct. As I said before status=8 kannel sends DLR itself to
>> >>>>> report that submit_sm was accepted. So if you don't want status=8
>> you need
>> >>>>> to use appropriate dlr_mask, i.e. dlr_mask=1+2+16=19 (for rejected
>> messages,
>> >>>>> delivered, and failed).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> group = smsc
>> >>>>>> smsc = smpp
>> >>>>>> smsc-id = s-send-1
>> >>>>>> smsc-admin-id = s-send-2
>> >>>>>> throughput = 150
>> >>>>>> transceiver-mode = 0
>> >>>>>> host = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>> >>>>>> port = 17800
>> >>>>>> smsc-username = "xxxxxx"
>> >>>>>> smsc-password = xxxxx
>> >>>>>> system-type = ""
>> >>>>>> address-range = ""
>> >>>>>> source-addr-ton = 2
>> >>>>>> source-addr-npi = 1
>> >>>>>> dest-addr-ton = 2
>> >>>>>> dest-addr-npi = 1
>> >>>>>> enquire-link-interval = 30
>> >>>>>> msg-id-type = 0x03
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Jason Mule <[email protected]
>> >
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> First of all, to bind in pure transmitter mode do not set
>> >>>>>>> receive-port. After this you should have 6 pure transmit binds
>> and 4 pure
>> >>>>>>> receiver binds.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2013 8:15 PM, "Jeff Thorn" <[email protected]
>> >
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the response. In my scenario, we want to be able to
>> send
>> >>>>>>>> as fast as possible. We are regularly submitting MTs at a rate
>> of 200 /
>> >>>>>>>> second. We get DLRs at a rate of 1.5 - 2 times this (300 - 400 /
>> second).
>> >>>>>>>> This makes sense to me since we get multiple DLRs for every MT
>> (status
>> >>>>>>>> 8,4,1).  We do need the DLRs for reporting purposes. Our
>> architecture was
>> >>>>>>>> just not setup to process them at the rate we are receiving them.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The apache server that hosts our dlr.php says it is receiving
>> >>>>>>>> requests at a rate of 30 / second.  The kannel status page says
>> we are
>> >>>>>>>> receiving DLRs at a rate of 300 / second. I cannot figure out
>> where the
>> >>>>>>>> bottleneck is. The apache status page shows idle worker threads.
>> So I do not
>> >>>>>>>> think that is the bottleneck. Is smsbox not sending to our dlr
>> url as fast
>> >>>>>>>> as it is receiving them from the smsc?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, spameden <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You can control DLR via dlr_mask parameter, if its unset you
>> won't
>> >>>>>>>>> receive any DLRs.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> About speed - it's strange for me that speed of DLRs is much
>> higher
>> >>>>>>>>> than MT submit speed.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Don't think there is any algorhythm implemented to control
>> inbound
>> >>>>>>>>> information coming, you might turn into transmitter mode, thus
>> it should
>> >>>>>>>>> stop receiving DLRs.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 2013/11/27 Jeff Thorn <[email protected]>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> It looks like setting receive-port=0 has no effect on DLRs. Is
>> >>>>>>>>>> there any way to control which binds receive DLRs or to
>> somehow control how
>> >>>>>>>>>> fast they are received?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Jeff Thorn
>> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> If we are getting DRs faster than we can process them, I
>> assume
>> >>>>>>>>>>> if we reduce the number of receive binds the rate that we get
>> DRs would go
>> >>>>>>>>>>> down. Is this generally true?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have a total of 10 binds setup - the desired design is to
>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>>> 6 transmit binds for sending MTs and 4 receive binds for
>> accepting MOs and
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Deliver Receipts. However, it appears that all 10 of our
>> binds are receiving
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Delivery Receipts. The SMSC is reporting several "Windows on
>> receiver links
>> >>>>>>>>>>> full" errors. I assume this is because they are sending DRs
>> faster than we
>> >>>>>>>>>>> are able to process them.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I tried setting receive-port = 0 on one of our transmit binds.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> However, we still seem to be receiving DRs on this bind. Here
>> the config for
>> >>>>>>>>>>> this bind. Am I missing something?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> group = smsc
>> >>>>>>>>>>> smsc = smpp
>> >>>>>>>>>>> smsc-id = s-send-1
>> >>>>>>>>>>> smsc-admin-id = send-1
>> >>>>>>>>>>> throughput = 60
>> >>>>>>>>>>> host = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>> >>>>>>>>>>> port = 17800
>> >>>>>>>>>>> receive-port = 0
>> >>>>>>>>>>> smsc-username = "xxxxxxx"
>> >>>>>>>>>>> smsc-password = xxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>>>>> system-type = ""
>> >>>>>>>>>>> address-range = ""
>> >>>>>>>>>>> source-addr-ton = 2
>> >>>>>>>>>>> source-addr-npi = 1
>> >>>>>>>>>>> dest-addr-ton = 2
>> >>>>>>>>>>> dest-addr-npi = 1
>> >>>>>>>>>>> enquire-link-interval = 30
>> >>>>>>>>>>> msg-id-type = 0x03
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate any help on this issue.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Jeff Thorn
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Group,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We are receiving DLRs from the SMSC faster than we can
>> process
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> them. Our setup is supposed to have 6 transmit binds and 4
>> receive binds.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, I just looked at status page showing all our binds
>> and it looks
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> like all 10 of our binds are receiving DLRs and they are
>> coming in at a rate
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> greater than 250 / second.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If I set the "receive-port" setting to 0 on our transmit
>> binds,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> will I stop receiving DLRs on these binds?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If this reduces the number of binds that can receive DLRs,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> should the rate they are received go down? Or is that
>> totally dependent upon
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the SMSC?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there anything I can control in my config that would
>> reduce
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the rate they are received or is that something only the
>> SMSC can control?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>

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