Hi Hans,

   Sorry Hit the send button too soon.

In your case I would suggest on the PC you set the VDEST timer field
DS_AWAIT_ACTIVE_TMR_VAL
To say 600 i.e 1 Minute. It should work for you with the payload being
reset without the
HPI infrastructure.

Regards
Sugadeesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Gudipalli S.-G19449
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 4:20 PM
> To: Hans Feldt; Kumar Nagendra-G20235; Marella P-G19460
> Cc: users@list.opensaf.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] System behavior 
> whenbothcontrollerstemporarily disappears?
> 
> Hi Hans,
> 
>    It is not really a timer based. The determination by the 
> payload that the system controller Did really go down has to 
> use a timer to factor in communication glitches and recovery 
> scenarios.
> So we will have a time factor but how long should be tuned 
> for each platform based on their Network reliability and 
> recovery times.
> 
> Regards
> Sugadeesh
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Feldt
> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:10 PM
> > To: Kumar Nagendra-G20235
> > Cc: users@list.opensaf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Users] System behavior when 
> bothcontrollerstemporarily 
> > disappears?
> > 
> > Thanks, now I understand.
> > 
> > It would be nice to have a fool-proof solution for non-HPI enabled 
> > systems.
> > 
> > The payload node should reboot itself automatically but not timer 
> > based, rather based on an event like both active and standby 
> > controller missing.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Hans
> > 
> > Kumar Nagendra-G20235 wrote:
> > > If your system is not HPI enabled then user intervention is
> > required.
> > > You need to reboot the payloads manually.
> > > 
> > > The case you are specifying would be solved on HPI enabled
> > system like
> > > this:
> > > When controller comes up then AVM of AvSv gets all the payload 
> > > information from HPI using HISV and send a reboot command 
> to reboot 
> > > these payloads. So, all the payloads would be rebooted.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > -Nagendra
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hans Feldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 5:41 PM
> > > To: Kumar Nagendra-G20235
> > > Cc: users@list.opensaf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Users] System behavior when both
> > controllerstemporarily
> > > disappears?
> > > 
> > > And this timer is canceled if an active controller comes
> > back before
> > > the timer expires?
> > > 
> > > So if both controllers are back again within 3 minutes, the
> > payloads
> > > will not reboot, is that correct?
> > > 
> > > But at the same time the payloads are not allowed to enter
> > the cluster
> > > again and we get the the AVD logs filled with:
> > > 
> > > AN INVALID DATA VALUE at ./avd_ndfsm.c:346 val 132367
> > > 
> > > Please explain how this is suppose to work and if there 
> is a catch 
> > > here with the scenario described above.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Hans
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kumar Nagendra-G20235 wrote:
> > >> Hans,
> > >>        The wait timer is in mds. MDS delays the DOWN events of 
> > >> Directors(working on Vdest) by 3 minutes. The reference is 
> > >> opensaf/services/mds/src/mds_main.c : uns32
> > MDS_AWAIT_ACTIVE_TMR_VAL
> > >> =
> > > 
> > >> 18000; AvND on payload doesn't get AVD down event till 3
> > minutes. And
> > >> when it gets, it reboots.
> > >>
> > >> This time had been put large enough to make Switchover success.
> > >> Swithover may take some time in putting the components 
> STDBY from 
> > >> ACTIVE.
> > >>
> > >> You can fine tune it as per your requirements as far as 
> payload is 
> > >> concerned.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> -Nagendra
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Feldt
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:18 PM
> > >> To: users@list.opensaf.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [Users] System behavior when both
> > controllerstemporarily
> > >> disappears?
> > >>
> > >> I found avnd_di.c:avnd_evt_mds_avd_dn that does a reboot 
> directly 
> > >> from
> > > 
> > >> what I understand. But the payload node seems to wait 3 minutes 
> > >> before
> > > 
> > >> reboot. Where is that in the code?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Hans
> > >>
> > >> Hans Feldt wrote:
> > >>> We discussed this a bit in thread:
> > >>> http://list.opensaf.org/archives/users/2007-August/000108.html
> > >>>
> > >>> I would like the payloads to discover that there is no active 
> > >>> controller and reboot themselves. Where in the (avnd) code can I
> > >> change this?
> > >>> This is a system without HPI enabled.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Hans
> > >>>
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