Thanks very much for this!

On Tue Aug19'25 10:06:00AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote:
> From: Alexander Burke via users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 10:06:00 +0000
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Cc: Alexander Burke <a...@alexburke.ca>
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > I am not keen on going to GrapheneOS because I do not want to have a google 
> > account to get Playstore apps (necessary ones at least)
> 
> I use GrapheneOS and I do not have a Google Account. I have installed apps
> from the Play Store via Aurora Store [0], which uses throwaway accounts
> (managed automatically and replenished as they get banned) to access the
> Play Store API and to fetch the relevant APKs directly from Google.

Oh, I see: I use obtainium too, but it never occurred to me to use that to 
install Aurora. I have not been able to figure out how to use AppVerifier with 
Obtainium as appears to be recommended but perhaps I will now put in greater 
effort intot this. 

> 
> It works great, with the caveat that paid apps and in-app purchases are a
> no-go. Even my banking apps (plural) work perfectly.

That is perfect: I am not interested in paid apps (to the extent I can avoid 
them, and have done so so far) or in-app purchases. My computers all  running 
Fedora, since Fedora Core 1, is good for that:-)

> 
> If you don't have sandboxed Play Services [1] installed, you won't get push
> notifications, but that's OK with me. (Signal brings its own notifications,
> which work perfectly.) If you do install sandboxed Play Services, you don't
> need to sign in for apps which use Google-based notifications (which is most
> of them) to work.

I see. So if an app is not installed via aurora (or something that is 
originally from F-Droid), does that mean that it comes with its own push 
notifications? I presume that I would miss notifications from something like 
Outlook lite (which I installed from Aurora) which is my work email. 

>
> 
> Even Google Maps works when installed from Aurora Store and without being
> signed in, as long as you have sandboxed Play Services installed or you
> install a sufficiently-old version of the APK which doesn't rely on Play
> Services.

I see: I use GV (from F-Droid) which is a frontend for Google Maps, and 
MapQuest. I am not sure what I miss.

> 
> I now have most of my apps installed via Obtainium [2].
> 
> 0: https://www.auroraoss.com/aurora-store
> 1: https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play
> 2: https://obtainium.imranr.dev/

Thanks very much again! This is very helpful to know.

Best wishes,
Ranjan


> 
> 
> On 2025-08-19 06:37, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > On Mon Aug18'25 09:11:13PM, Joe Average wrote:
> > > From: Joe Average <sixpac...@online.de>
> > > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:11:13 -0000
> > > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> > > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> > > <users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> > > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android
> > > 
> > > Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > Our phones use CalyxOS and LineageOS (the first on a Pixel 8a and the 
> > > > second on a Pixel 4a5g) with the latter rooted and bootloader unlocked 
> > > > (which is what LineageOS requires).
> > > 
> > > are you aware off this ?
> > > https://calyxos.org/news/2025/08/01/a-letter-to-our-community/
> > 
> > Oh, no! Thank you for this information. Sending a project to hiatus for 4-6 
> > months (and then having everyone reinstall) seems to me to be a major 
> > hurdle to its continuation.
> > 
> > I am not keen on going to GrapheneOS because I do not want to have a google 
> > account to get Playstore apps (necessary ones at least). I just came across 
> > iode os and can not tell much the difference between that and CalyxOS. 
> > However, it is not clear to me how updated it is, given that the website 
> > main page is from October 2024. Actually, it is also not clear that it 
> > installs on an 8a.
> > 
> > Any other options? I was originally on LineageOS with microg, and then 
> > moved to CalyxOS (and then to GrapheneOS for a few days before I came back).
> > 
> > Thanks very much again for the above information!
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > Ranjan
> > 
> 
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