On Fri, 2025-10-10 at 08:07 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > > All the stuff up to the [...] (above) is unnecessary. We know the
> > > > subject, the sending date and the To address from the headers, and we
> > > > know who you're replying to (me in this case) because it's stated below
> > > > after the date of the message being replied to.
> > > >
> > > > The quoting style I'm using here, and which most people on the list
> > > > follow, is more succinct and less liable to confusion.
> > > Thanks Patrick, the information at the top of the mail is inserted by
> > > Thunderbird itself which it has always done.
> > I think a lot of people here use TBird, though I use Evolution myself,
> > but yours is the only one (at least in recent memory) that behaves this
> > way.
> I'm using the upstream Daily version of Thunderbird, which I have always
> used, even as far back as when I was sharing my local copy mail
> environment between Windows and Fedora, and I don't remember Thunderbird
> ever not quoting the details of who the reply to was at the top of the
> email.
> From what I can see there is no configuration options in Thunderbird to
> toggle this functionality.
And yet that didn't appear this time (perhaps you deleted those lines),
and nevertheless it's still clear who is being replied to.
> >
> > > As you have said with your emails it is obvious who is being replied to,
> > > as I see your name in the from data displayed in the inbox and you have
> > > your initials in the signature.
> > > The issue I have with a lot of the emails in the list is the from data
> > > shows as "Community support for Fedora Users" (as my mails do when I see
> > > them, which seems to have surfaced since moving to Gmail as my mail
> > > system) and there is no signature shown, so the only way to know who is
> > > actually being responded to is the info at the top which I tend to
> > > leave, but if it is annoying to people then I can remove it.
> > Are you sure? What I see is a From: line showing the poster's name, and
> > a To: line with the list address ("Community support" etc.)
> Yes. If I look at the first mail in this thread from Michael, the "From"
> and To in the mail headers as shown by Thunderbird at the top of the
> preview window I use both show as "Community Support", which marries up
> with the Correspondents column in my inbox which indicates the mail came
> from "Community Support", but with your email that I'm replying to, the
> "From" header identifies you and the To is "Community Support". I've
> also noticed that with mails I send both the "From" and the To show as
> "Community Support", which seems to have only happened since moving from
> the email address supplied to me by my ISP to using a Gmail address.
> >
> > The signature is put there by the user (in some cases because they've
> > configured their MUA to do it for them).
> This bit I understood, but the issue I have is that for a lot of the
> emails I look a signature is not being presented, so when the "From" and
> To are both "Community Support" I have no idea who the mail is from
> until I do a reply.
So clearly TBird knows who you're replying to, but isn't showing you
that by default in the headers. I've no idea why that is. Perhaps some
TBird user could jump in here, because it's clearly not normal.
Just for comparison, this is what my mailer shows me for your message
(the one I'm replying to now):
From: Stephen Morris <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50
lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 08:07:49 +1100 (09/10/25 22:07:49)
Mailer: Thunderbird Daily
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