Hi,

I am asking this question here because of the sheer breadth and depth of 
knowledge on this mailing list.

My mail so far has been handled by mutt (sylpheed/claws-mail in the middle), 
both of which I like and am comfortable with, having used one of them ever 
since I started using linux in the nineties (I remember using floppy disks and 
then CDs to install -- what a breeze it is today). So I have a large email 
corpus stored in Maildir++ folders (mutt handles these with ease, therefore I 
switched back despite claws-mail/sylpheed's superb search abilities which is 
mutt's weakness in my view).

However, my university IT decided to move to MS 365 with OAUTH2 authentication 
and force everybody to it. However, they appear to allow evolution (whether 
this is by omission or someone among their large army still uses it, we will 
likely eventually find out) and I am able to use it to get the tokens that make 
it possible to access and refresh from the gnome keyring -- this happens under 
the hood.

The IT folks have managed to scare the administrators enough about the pitfalls 
of registering any (perhaps no more than five out of perhaps 50 users 
campus-wide) apps in entra ID , even though the evolution settings do not 
appear to be unversity-specific. They only communicate to me through them 
(using chatGPT-generated buzzwords) so all my technical arguments and proposed 
suggestions and alternatives are lost.

Personally, I find evolution a bit too feature-rich for my needs, and even 
somewhat tedious (being old school, I like looking under the hood and so I 
prefer settings where I can edit a plain-text configuration file). 

Now, I understand that mutt has mutt_oauth2.py has very detailed descriptions 
of what and how to go about getting these tokens but they do not work for me. 
(Not being very knowledgeable about this, I wonder if it is because the default 
setting in evolution is: 
https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/nativeclient and all approaches 
described appear to use the browser.)  

Anyway, my question is if it is at all possible to access these evolution 
tokens in the keyring for use with 
mutt/neomutt/sylpheed/claws-mail/getmail6/fetchmail/whatever and use them. So, 
if something like this were possible, I would still run evolution once in a 
while to get new tokens issued,  but use these other receiving and sending 
email agents.

Any other option I could try? I have spent over three weeks on this, but have 
not been able to land a solution. (Of course, it is so unnecessary given the 
plethora of easy options apparently generally available.)

Thanks in advance. 

M L
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