On Wed, 2026-06-03 at 09:26 -0500, M L via users wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am asking this question here because of the sheer breadth and depth
> of knowledge on this mailing list.
> 
> My mail so far has been handled by mutt (sylpheed/claws-mail in the
> middle), both of which I like and am comfortable with, having used
> one of them ever since I started using linux in the nineties (I
> remember using floppy disks and then CDs to install -- what a breeze
> it is today). So I have a large email corpus stored in Maildir++
> folders (mutt handles these with ease, therefore I switched back
> despite claws-mail/sylpheed's superb search abilities which is mutt's
> weakness in my view).
> 
> However, my university IT decided to move to MS 365 with OAUTH2
> authentication and force everybody to it. However, they appear to
> allow evolution (whether this is by omission or someone among their
> large army still uses it, we will likely eventually find out) and I
> am able to use it to get the tokens that make it possible to access
> and refresh from the gnome keyring -- this happens under the hood.
> 
> The IT folks have managed to scare the administrators enough about
> the pitfalls of registering any (perhaps no more than five out of
> perhaps 50 users campus-wide) apps in entra ID , even though the
> evolution settings do not appear to be unversity-specific. They only
> communicate to me through them (using chatGPT-generated buzzwords) so
> all my technical arguments and proposed suggestions and alternatives
> are lost.
> 
> Personally, I find evolution a bit too feature-rich for my needs, and
> even somewhat tedious (being old school, I like looking under the
> hood and so I prefer settings where I can edit a plain-text
> configuration file). 
> 
> Now, I understand that mutt has mutt_oauth2.py has very detailed
> descriptions of what and how to go about getting these tokens but
> they do not work for me. (Not being very knowledgeable about this, I
> wonder if it is because the default setting in evolution is:
> https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/nativeclient and all
> approaches described appear to use the browser.)  
> 
> Anyway, my question is if it is at all possible to access these
> evolution tokens in the keyring for use with
> mutt/neomutt/sylpheed/claws-mail/getmail6/fetchmail/whatever and use
> them. So, if something like this were possible, I would still run
> evolution once in a while to get new tokens issued,  but use these
> other receiving and sending email agents.
> 
> Any other option I could try? I have spent over three weeks on this,
> but have not been able to land a solution. (Of course, it is so
> unnecessary given the plethora of easy options apparently generally
> available.)

There's a current thread on the Evolution mailing list that talks about
this or something like it. See:

https://lists.osuosl.org/pipermail/evolution-users/2026-June/thread.html

poc
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