On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 at 17:06, Dominic Hopf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't know, as I did not build the flatpak nor use it myself.

Seems like flathub doesn't list who maintains it, AFAICT, so could be
anybody, competence unknown.  IIRC kugel- identified some issues
relating to flatpacking Geany, not sure if thats solved or not.

> The flatpak would need to bundle the plugins, of course (as flatpaks bundle 
> everything else as well).

Ok, thats not the flathub one AFAICT.

> I guess that still needs to be tested as well as if it was possible to 
> install flatpaks on CentOS 7 at all.

Google says its possible https://flatpak.org/setup/CentOS ... in fact built-in.

Cheers
Lex

>
> Regards,
> Dominic
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 8:56 AM Lex Trotman via Users <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 at 16:21, Dominic Hopf via Users
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Also, you did not come back to my point on installing a flatpak instead. 
>> > If it was possible for you to follow instructions like e.g. these ones 
>> > that would be great:
>> >
>> > https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-flatpak-on-centos
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Dominic
>>
>> Does the flatpack work with the plugins?  (which was where we started).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lex
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 8:16 AM Dominic Hopf <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> So I don't have any CentOS 7 system up and running somewhere. Can you 
>> >> check if this ominous Red Hat Developer Toolset can be found on your 
>> >> CentOS 7 machine and what the package name is?
>> >> If so, that still doesn't have to mean that the build servers in the 
>> >> Fedora infrastructure responsible for building EPEL packages have the 
>> >> same package available, but I can try, at least.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dominic
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 2:57 AM H via Users <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 06/20/2023 08:29 PM, Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
>> >>> > On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 at 09:14, H via Users <[email protected]> 
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >> On 06/20/2023 04:10 AM, Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
>> >>> >>> I accidently took us off list, added us back.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 23:11, Dominic Hopf <[email protected]> 
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>> So I did a quick try to build Geany 1.38 for EPEL7, right now the 
>> >>> >>>> problem is that `./configure` already fails with this message:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> configure: error: *** A compiler with support for C++17 language 
>> >>> >>>> features is required.
>> >>> >>>> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.X4sTL9 (%build)
>> >>> >>>>     Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.X4sTL9 (%build)
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>> Ok, thats not one that is fixable in a practical sense, Scintilla
>> >>> >>> versions after the 3.x.x stable versions do require C++17, and the
>> >>> >>> changes between the old version and the new versions (two major
>> >>> >>> versions after all) have too many changes to be practical to support
>> >>> >>> both.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> I'm afraid this is not possible to build without immense effort 
>> >>> >>>> unless anyone else has an idea?
>> >>> >>>> Does one of you guys know if it's possible to install flatpaks on 
>> >>> >>>> CentOS 7? Probably that could be an idea then?
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>> Well, I guess Flatsnaps, dockers or other containerised mechanisms
>> >>> >>> would maybe allow for a newer C++ compiler to build against a newer
>> >>> >>> runtime.  Docker is used to do the Windows cross compiles and CI now.
>> >>> >>> Would need to run in the container too so the newer C++ runtime
>> >>> >>> library was available I guess.  But I am no container expert.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> >>> Lex
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>> >>>> Dominic
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:36 PM Lex Trotman <[email protected]> 
>> >>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 19:10, Dominic Hopf <[email protected]> 
>> >>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>> No need to ask in the RedHat Bugzilla at all as I'm reading here 
>> >>> >>>>>> as well. ;)
>> >>> >>>>>> I remember there were issues building Geany 1.38 for CentOS 7, 
>> >>> >>>>>> but I don't remember what issues that was in detail, though.
>> >>> >>>>>> I'll retry as soon as I can and will let you know. Either I can 
>> >>> >>>>>> tell you what the issue is or probably there will be an update.
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Thank you, if its a dependency thats too olde I guess there won't 
>> >>> >>>>> be
>> >>> >>>>> much we can do, but its good to know what the problem is.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> Cheers
>> >>> >>>>> Lex
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Regards,
>> >>> >>>>>> Dominic
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 3:09 AM Lex Trotman via Users 
>> >>> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>>>> Lex, is there anything I can do if you want to look into this? 
>> >>> >>>>>>>> I would love to have 1.38 - and hopefully 1.39 - available for 
>> >>> >>>>>>>> CentOS 7.
>> >>> >>>>>>> You could ask on Centos bugzilla what the problem was.
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>> I don't want to sound negative, so lets call it being pragmatic 
>> >>> >>>>>>> ;-P
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>> Centos 7 has one year of maintenance updates left, IIUC 
>> >>> >>>>>>> maintenance
>> >>> >>>>>>> updates mean security and bugfixes, no new versions, so 1.38 or 
>> >>> >>>>>>> 1.39
>> >>> >>>>>>> doesn't seem likely to happen.
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>> We try to keep Geany git working on Ubuntu LTS (that is what 
>> >>> >>>>>>> Github CI
>> >>> >>>>>>> uses) but no guarantees on older things and without any info 
>> >>> >>>>>>> about
>> >>> >>>>>>> what failed we can't do much.
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>> Cheers
>> >>> >>>>>>> Lex
>> >>> >>>>>>>
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>> >>> >> But does not Red Hat Developer Toolset 10.x support C/C++17? See 
>> >>> >> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_developer_toolset/12/html-single/user_guide/index#sect-GCC-CPP-Compatibility.
>> >>> >>  Although I myself have an earlier version of the Developer Toolset 
>> >>> >> installed on my own computer, it seems that the latest release, 
>> >>> >> Developer Toolset 12 even supports C/C++20?
>> >>> > "Red Hat Developer Toolset is a Red Hat offering for developers on the
>> >>> > Red Hat Enterprise Linux platform." so is it available for Centos 7,
>> >>> > and is it supported to build software for the Centos 7 repository?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Cheers
>> >>> > Lex
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> If my reading is correct, it would seem the compiler requirement can 
>> >>> >> be met?
>> >>> Yes, I have been using an earlier version on my CentOS 7 system. CentOS 
>> >>> and RHEL are ABI compatible. The same repositories are used for software 
>> >>> to be downloaded.
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