Promotion or punishment? Well.. as Obi-Wan would say it all depends greatly on 
our point of view :)

No Dave and I just share it out between us based on whoever is free(er) at that 
point.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:14 AM
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] pyc.py sample

Srivatsn Narayanan wrote:
>> Ok. May I suggest not including sample updates in IronPython release
>> notes if they have their own release cycle... :-)
>>
> Yes my fault there. I didn't know about the separate release cycle for 
> samples. I'm learning... :)
>

Are you generally responsible for doing new releases Sri? (Is this a
promotion or punishment...)

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:16 AM
> To: Discussion of IronPython
> Subject: Re: [IronPython] pyc.py sample
>
> Dave Fugate wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael, this seems like as good of a time as any to shed some light on 
>> our thoughts around the IronPython samples.  First Pyc - Pyc.py was indeed 
>> updated for IronPython 2.x in our internal TFS repository last month, but as 
>> most people are already aware we don't reship the samples with every minor 
>> release of IronPython.  The main reason we do this (at least from my 
>> perspective) is testing.  Most of the samples are GUI-based and need to be 
>> tested by hand which is quite time consuming.
>>
>
> Testing GUI applications - particularly windows forms based ones - is a
> process amenable to automation. We have a few hundred automated
> 'functional tests' for Resolver One and I can highly recommend it.
>
>
>>  By cutting the samples out of minor IronPython releases, we're able to 
>> release IronPython in quicker intervals and focus more test time on new 
>> features as opposed to samples verification.  Regardless, we believe this 
>> sample depicts a vital aspect of IronPython functionality and will do a 
>> one-time 2.0B4 release of Pyc on www.codeplex.com/IronPython sometime today 
>> to get feedback.
>>
>> As for inclusion of the samples into the installer for IronPython 2.0, our 
>> current plan is actually to follow what we did with IronPython 1.0.  That 
>> is, we'll release the samples shortly after 2.0 ships.  The fundamental 
>> reason for doing this is that delaying samples work lets us put more effort 
>> into improving the quality of ipy.exe and the core IronPython documentation.
>>
>>
> Ok. May I suggest not including sample updates in IronPython release
> notes if they have their own release cycle... :-)
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>> Dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:52 AM
>> To: Discussion of IronPython
>> Subject: [IronPython] pyc.py sample
>>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> The IronPython 2.0b4 release notes state:
>>
>> # Static compilation of python files is now supported again and the pyc.py
>> sample has been updated to use the newer version.
>>
>> Where is the updated sample? I can't find it...
>>
>> As samples are updated for IronPython 2 it would make sense to move them
>> into the installer (in their own directory on the start menu entry for
>> IronPython).
>>
>> Michael
>>
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