Leonides Saguisag wrote:
Hi Michael,

It seems to be a bug with IronPython 2.0.x then.  I just installed IronPython 
2.0.3 and this is what I found:


C:\>"C:\Program Files\IronPython 2.0.3\ipy.exe"
IronPython 2.0.3 (2.0.0.0) on .NET 2.0.50727.3603
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
import sys
sys.path.append(r'D:\Python25\lib')
import codecs
lines = open(r'D:\Temp\text_file_without_utf8_bom.txt', 'r').readlines()
print lines
['This is a text file without a UTF-8 BOM.\n', 'Line 2\n', 'Line 3']
lines[0].startswith(codecs.BOM_UTF8)
True
^Z

C:\>
It returned 'True' even though the text file did not have a UTF-8 BOM.  
Contrasted with standard Python 2.5:


C:\> D:\Python25\python.exe
Python 2.5.4 (r254:67916, Dec 23 2008, 15:10:54) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on 
win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
import sys
import codecs
lines = open(r'D:\Temp\text_file_without_utf8_bom.txt', 'r').readlines()
print lines
['This is a text file without a UTF-8 BOM.\n', 'Line 2\n', 'Line 3']
lines[0].startswith(codecs.BOM_UTF8)
False
^Z

C:\>


So it looks like there was a bug in IronPython 2.0.x with regards to the 
handling of codecs.BOM_UTF8 that now appears to be fixed in IronPython 2.6.  
Does that sound like a fair assessment?

Looks to me like you are right. If the code that checks for the BOM is in your code rather than a library module then you'll have to find another way to do the check I'm afraid. (Or upgrade to IronPython 2.6 of course.)

All the best,

Michael Foord

Thanks!

-- Leo

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From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
Sent: 2009?11?10? 14:30
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] Weird issue with codecs.BOM_UTF8

Leonides Saguisag wrote:
Hi Michael,

I am using SharpDevelop 3.1 which comes with "2.5.0 (IronPython 2.0.2 (2.0.0.0) on 
.NET 2.0.50727.3603)".

Yeah, that's IronPython 2.0 - which is fine but not as good as IronPython 2.6. 
;-)

So this issue is resolved with IronPython 2.6, then?


No idea. I can't reproduce the problem with IronPython 2.6 though. Try 
installing IronPython 2 and seeing what happens from the interactive 
interpreter (whether you can reproduce the problem or not). It is
*possible* that it's caused by the way SharpDevelop generates its executables, 
but that's highly unlikely to be the cause of the problem.

All the best,

Michael Foord

Thanks!

-- Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
Sent: 2009?11?10? 14:05
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] Weird issue with codecs.BOM_UTF8

Leonides Saguisag wrote:
Hi Michael,

I just verified the empty string theory that you mentioned and 
Python25\lib\codecs.py (comes with the standard library in Python 2.5) has the 
following defined:

You're using IronPython 2.0 then?

If I use IronPython 2.6 it correctly reports a text file as not starting with 
the BOM:

 >>> import codecs
 >>> codecs.BOM_UTF8
u'\xef\xbb\xbf'
>>> lines = open('foo.txt').readlines() >>> lines ['foo'] >>> lines[0].startswith(codecs.BOM_UTF8)
False


All the best,

Michael Foord
# UTF-8
BOM_UTF8 = '\xef\xbb\xbf'


So it is not an empty string.

Maybe I am approaching this wrong and you guys can provide me with an 
alternative way of doing this.  I am trying to read a file and determine if the 
file is encoded in UTF-8 or not.  The approach I took was to use python's 
built-in open function to read the text file into an array of strings and check 
if the first line starts with the UTF-8 byte order mark by using 
line.startswith(codecs.BOM_UTF8).  As I noted below, this works fine in Python 
2.5 but in IronPython it just keeps saying it found a UTF-8 BOM even though 
there is none present.

Thanks!

-- Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
Sent: 2009?11?10? 13:32
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] Weird issue with codecs.BOM_UTF8

Leonides Saguisag wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to reply.  Any idea why this would happen in 
IronPython but not with the standard Python interpreter?  What is weirding me 
out is that the exact same script behaves differently depending on whether I 
use IronPython or the standard Python interpreter.
Well, if codecs.BOM_UTF8 is set to the empty string (you didn't say if you have 
tried this yet?) then it would be due to a bug in IronPython somewhere - but at 
least you would know what was causing it.

If it is the empty string, purely speculating, it could be due to the way the 
.NET framework treats the BOM at the start of strings. Pure speculation though 
- that might not be the problem at all or it could be caused by something 
entirely different.

In .NET it would be more normal to check for the BOM with bytes, as by the time you have a string you have (usually) decoded already. IronPython 2.X is a bit odd for the .NET framework in this respect.

Michael

Thanks!

-- Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
Sent: 2009?11?10? 13:17
To: Discussion of IronPython
Subject: Re: [IronPython] Weird issue with codecs.BOM_UTF8

Leonides Saguisag wrote:
Hi everyone,

I am encountering a weird issue with getting to codecs.BOM_UTF8 to work 
correctly.  I am using SharpDevelop 3.1.

Here is the test script that I put together:


import sys
sys.path.append(r'D:\Python25\Lib')
import codecs

print sys.version
myfile = open(r'D:\Temp\text_file_with_utf8_bom.txt', 'r') lines =
myfile.readlines()
myfile.close()
if lines[0].startswith(codecs.BOM_UTF8):
        print ('UTF-8 BOM detected!')
else:
        print ('UTF-8 BOM not detected!')

myfile = open(r'D:\Temp\text_file_without_utf8_bom.txt', 'r') lines =
myfile.readlines()
myfile.close()
if lines[0].startswith(codecs.BOM_UTF8):
        print ('UTF-8 BOM detected!')
else:
        print ('UTF-8 BOM not detected!')


If I run the executable that I get from SharpDevelop this is what I get:
bin\Debug> Test.exe
2.5.0 ()
UTF-8 BOM detected!
UTF-8 BOM detected!


But if I run the same script using the standard python interpreter, this is 
what I get:
bin\Debug> D:\Python25\python.exe ..\..\Program.py
2.5.4 (r254:67916, Dec 23 2008, 15:10:54) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]
UTF-8 BOM detected!
UTF-8 BOM not detected!


The script works correctly with the standard python interpreter but for some 
reason is not working right with IronPython.

Any ideas what is going wrong?
I'm not in a position to check right now, but this could happen if 
codes.UTF8_BOM is set to the empty string.

Michael

Thanks!

Best regards,
-- Leo
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