Ralph,
I can't get "opal_paffinity_alone" to work (see below). However, there is a "mpi_affinity_alone" that I tried without any improvement.

However, setting:
-mca btl_openib_eager_limit 65536
gave a 15% improvement so OpenMPI is now down to 326 (from previous 376 seconds). Still a lot more than ScaliMPI with 214 seconds.

Looking at the profile data my gut feeling is that the performance suffers due to the frequent calls to MPI_IPROBE. I will look at this and count the number of calls but it could easily be 10 times more calls to MPI_IPROBE thanto MPI_BSEND.

/Torgny

n70 462% ompi_info --param all all | grep opal
MCA opal: parameter "opal_signal" (current value: "6,7,8,11", data source: default value) MCA opal: parameter "opal_set_max_sys_limits" (current value: "0", data source: default value) MCA opal: parameter "opal_event_include" (current value: "poll", data source: default value)
n70 463% ompi_info --param all all | grep paffinity
MCA mpi: parameter "mpi_paffinity_alone" (current value: "0", data source: default value) MCA paffinity: parameter "paffinity_base_verbose" (current value: "0", data source: default value)
                         Verbosity level of the paffinity framework
MCA paffinity: parameter "paffinity" (current value: <none>, data source: default value) Default selection set of components for the paffinity framework (<none> means use all components that can be found) MCA paffinity: parameter "paffinity_linux_priority" (current value: "10", data source: default value)
                         Priority of the linux paffinity component
MCA paffinity: information "paffinity_linux_plpa_version" (value: "1.2rc2", data source: default value)




Ralph Castain wrote:
Okay, one problem is fairly clear. As Terry indicated, you have to tell us to bind or else you lose a lot of performace. Set -mca opal_paffinity_alone 1 on your cmd line and it should make a significant difference.


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Torgny Faxen <fa...@nsc.liu.se <mailto:fa...@nsc.liu.se>> wrote:

    Ralph,
    I am running through a locally provided wrapper but  it translates to:
    /software/mpi/openmpi/1.3b2/i101017/bin/mpirun -np 144 -npernode 8
    -mca mpi_show_mca_params env,file /nobac
    kup/rossby11/faxen/RCO_scobi/src_161.openmpi/rco2.24pe

    a) Upgrade.. This will take some time, it will have to go through
    the administrator, this is a production cluster
    b) -mca .. see output below
    c) I used exactly the same optimization flags for all three
    versions (ScaliMPI, OpenMPI and IntelMPI) and this is Fortran so I
    am using mpif90 :-)

    Regards / Torgny

    [n70:30299] ess=env (environment)
    [n70:30299] orte_ess_jobid=482607105 (environment)
    [n70:30299] orte_ess_vpid=0 (environment)
    [n70:30299] mpi_yield_when_idle=0 (environment)
    [n70:30299] mpi_show_mca_params=env,file (environment)


    Ralph Castain wrote:

        Could you send us the mpirun cmd line? I wonder if you are
        missing some options that could help. Also, you might:

        (a) upgrade to 1.3.3 - it looks like you are using some kind
        of pre-release version

        (b) add -mca mpi_show_mca_params env,file - this will cause
        rank=0 to output what mca params it sees, and where they came from

        (c) check that you built a non-debug version, and remembered
        to compile your application with a -O3 flag - i.e., "mpicc -O3
        ...". Remember, OMPI does not automatically add optimization
        flags to mpicc!

        Thanks
        Ralph


        On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Torgny Faxen <fa...@nsc.liu.se
        <mailto:fa...@nsc.liu.se> <mailto:fa...@nsc.liu.se
        <mailto:fa...@nsc.liu.se>>> wrote:

           Pasha,
           no collectives are being used.

           A simple grep in the code reveals the following MPI functions
           being used:
           MPI_Init
           MPI_wtime
           MPI_COMM_RANK
           MPI_COMM_SIZE
           MPI_BUFFER_ATTACH
           MPI_BSEND
           MPI_PACK
           MPI_UNPACK
           MPI_PROBE
           MPI_GET_COUNT
           MPI_RECV
           MPI_IPROBE
           MPI_FINALIZE

           where MPI_IPROBE is the clear winner in terms of number of
        calls.

           /Torgny


           Pavel Shamis (Pasha) wrote:

               Do you know if the application use some collective
        operations ?

               Thanks

               Pasha

               Torgny Faxen wrote:

                   Hello,
                   we are seeing a large difference in performance for
        some
                   applications depending on what MPI is being used.

                   Attached are performance numbers and oprofile output
                   (first 30 lines) from one out of 14 nodes from one
                   application run using OpenMPI, IntelMPI and Scali MPI
                   respectively.

                   Scali MPI is faster the other two MPI:s with a
        factor of
                   1.6 and 1.75:

                   ScaliMPI: walltime for the whole application is 214
        seconds
                   OpenMPI: walltime for the whole application is 376
        seconds
                   Intel MPI: walltime for the whole application is
        346 seconds.

                   The application is running with the main send receive
                   commands being:
                   MPI_Bsend
                   MPI_Iprobe followed by MPI_Recv (in case of there
        being a
                   message). Quite often MPI_Iprobe is being called
        just to
                   check whether there is a certain message pending.

                   Any idea on tuning tips, performance analysis, code
                   modifications to improve the OpenMPI performance? A
        lot of
                   time is being spent in "mca_btl_sm_component_progress",
                   "btl_openib_component_progress" and other internal
        routines.

                   The code is running on a cluster with 140 HP ProLiant
                   DL160 G5 compute servers. Infiniband interconnect.
        Intel
                   Xeon E5462 processors. The profiled application is
        using
                   144 cores on 18 nodes over Infiniband.

                   Regards / Torgny
=====================================================================================================================0

                   OpenMPI  1.3b2
=====================================================================================================================0


                   Walltime: 376 seconds

                   CPU: CPU with timer interrupt, speed 0 MHz (estimated)
                   Profiling through timer interrupt
                   samples  %        image name               app name
                                   symbol name
668288 22.2113 mca_btl_sm.so rco2.24pe mca_btl_sm_component_progress 441828 14.6846 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe step_ 335929 11.1650 libmlx4-rdmav2.so rco2.24pe (no symbols) 301446 10.0189 mca_btl_openib.so rco2.24pe btl_openib_component_progress 161033 5.3521 libopen-pal.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe opal_progress
                   157024    5.2189  libpthread-2.5.so
        <http://libpthread-2.5.so>
<http://libpthread-2.5.so> rco2.24pe pthread_spin_lock

99526 3.3079 no-vmlinux no-vmlinux (no symbols) 93887 3.1204 mca_btl_sm.so rco2.24pe opal_using_threads 69979 2.3258 mca_pml_ob1.so rco2.24pe mca_pml_ob1_iprobe 58895 1.9574 mca_bml_r2.so rco2.24pe mca_bml_r2_progress 55095 1.8311 mca_pml_ob1.so rco2.24pe mca_pml_ob1_recv_request_match_wild 49286 1.6381 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe tracer_ 41946 1.3941 libintlc.so.5 rco2.24pe __intel_new_memcpy 40730 1.3537 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe scobi_ 36586 1.2160 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe state_ 20986 0.6975 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe diag_ 19321 0.6422 libmpi.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe PMPI_Unpack 18552 0.6166 libmpi.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe PMPI_Iprobe 17323 0.5757 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe clinic_ 16194 0.5382 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe k_epsi_ 15330 0.5095 libmpi.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe PMPI_Comm_f2c 13778 0.4579 libmpi_f77.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe mpi_iprobe_f 13241 0.4401 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe s_recv_ 12386 0.4117 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe growth_ 11699 0.3888 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe testnrecv_ 11268 0.3745 libmpi.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe mca_pml_base_recv_request_construct 10971 0.3646 libmpi.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe ompi_convertor_unpack 10034 0.3335 mca_pml_ob1.so rco2.24pe mca_pml_ob1_recv_request_match_specific 10003 0.3325 libimf.so rco2.24pe exp.L 9375 0.3116 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe subbasin_ 8912 0.2962 libmpi_f77.so.0.0.0 rco2.24pe mpi_unpack_f



=====================================================================================================================0

                   Intel MPI, version 3.2.0.011/ <http://3.2.0.011/>
        <http://3.2.0.011/>

=====================================================================================================================0


                   Walltime: 346 seconds

                   CPU: CPU with timer interrupt, speed 0 MHz (estimated)
                   Profiling through timer interrupt
                   samples  %        image name               app name
                                   symbol name
486712 17.7537 rco2 rco2 step_ 431941 15.7558 no-vmlinux no-vmlinux (no symbols) 212425 7.7486 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPIDI_CH3U_Recvq_FU 188975 6.8932 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPIDI_CH3I_RDSSM_Progress 172855 6.3052 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPIDI_CH3I_read_progress 121472 4.4309 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPIDI_CH3I_SHM_read_progress
                   64492     2.3525  libc-2.5.so <http://libc-2.5.so>
<http://libc-2.5.so> rco2 sched_yield

52372 1.9104 rco2 rco2 tracer_ 48621 1.7735 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 .plt 45475 1.6588 libmpiif.so.3.2 rco2 pmpi_iprobe__ 44082 1.6080 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPID_Iprobe 42788 1.5608 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPIDI_CH3_Stop_recv
                   42754     1.5595  libpthread-2.5.so
        <http://libpthread-2.5.so>
<http://libpthread-2.5.so> rco2 pthread_mutex_lock

42190 1.5390 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 PMPI_Iprobe 41577 1.5166 rco2 rco2 scobi_ 40356 1.4721 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPIDI_CH3_Start_recv 38582 1.4073 libdaplcma.so.1.0.2 rco2 (no symbols) 37545 1.3695 rco2 rco2 state_
                   35597     1.2985  libc-2.5.so <http://libc-2.5.so>
<http://libc-2.5.so> rco2 free
                   34019     1.2409  libc-2.5.so <http://libc-2.5.so>
<http://libc-2.5.so> rco2 malloc

31841 1.1615 rco2 rco2 s_recv_ 30955 1.1291 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 __I_MPI___intel_new_memcpy
                   27876     1.0168  libc-2.5.so <http://libc-2.5.so>
<http://libc-2.5.so> rco2 _int_malloc

26963 0.9835 rco2 rco2 testnrecv_
                   23005     0.8391  libpthread-2.5.so
        <http://libpthread-2.5.so>
<http://libpthread-2.5.so> rco2 __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt

22290 0.8131 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPID_Segment_manipulate 22086 0.8056 libmpi.so.3.2 rco2 MPIDI_CH3I_read_progress_expected 19146 0.6984 rco2 rco2 diag_ 18250 0.6657 rco2 rco2 clinic_ =====================================================================================================================0

                   Scali MPI, version 3.13.10-59413
=====================================================================================================================0


                   Walltime:

                   CPU: CPU with timer interrupt, speed 0 MHz (estimated)
                   Profiling through timer interrupt
                   samples  %        image name               app name
                                   symbol name
484267 30.0664 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe step_ 111949 6.9505 libmlx4-rdmav2.so rco2.24pe (no symbols) 73930 4.5900 libmpi.so rco2.24pe scafun_rq_handle_body 57846 3.5914 libmpi.so rco2.24pe invert_decode_header
                   55836     3.4667  libpthread-2.5.so
        <http://libpthread-2.5.so>
<http://libpthread-2.5.so> rco2.24pe pthread_spin_lock

53703 3.3342 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe tracer_ 40934 2.5414 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe scobi_ 40244 2.4986 libmpi.so rco2.24pe scafun_request_probe_handler 37399 2.3220 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe state_ 30455 1.8908 libmpi.so rco2.24pe invert_matchandprobe 29707 1.8444 no-vmlinux no-vmlinux (no symbols) 29147 1.8096 libmpi.so rco2.24pe FMPI_scafun_Iprobe 27969 1.7365 libmpi.so rco2.24pe decode_8_u_64 27475 1.7058 libmpi.so rco2.24pe scafun_rq_anysrc_fair_one 25966 1.6121 libmpi.so rco2.24pe scafun_uxq_probe
                   24380     1.5137  libc-2.5.so <http://libc-2.5.so>
<http://libc-2.5.so> rco2.24pe memcpy

22615 1.4041 libmpi.so rco2.24pe .plt 21172 1.3145 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe diag_
                   20716     1.2862  libc-2.5.so <http://libc-2.5.so>
<http://libc-2.5.so> rco2.24pe memset

18565 1.1526 libmpi.so rco2.24pe openib_wrapper_poll_cq 18192 1.1295 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe clinic_ 17135 1.0638 libmpi.so rco2.24pe PMPI_Iprobe 16685 1.0359 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe k_epsi_ 16236 1.0080 libmpi.so rco2.24pe PMPI_Unpack 15563 0.9662 libmpi.so rco2.24pe scafun_r_rq_append 14829 0.9207 libmpi.so rco2.24pe scafun_rq_test_finished 13349 0.8288 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe s_recv_ 12490 0.7755 libmpi.so rco2.24pe flop_matchandprobe 12427 0.7715 libibverbs.so.1.0.0 rco2.24pe (no symbols) 12272 0.7619 libmpi.so rco2.24pe scafun_rq_handle 12146 0.7541 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe growth_ 10175 0.6317 libmpi.so rco2.24pe wrp2p_test_finished 9888 0.6139 libimf.so rco2.24pe exp.L 9179 0.5699 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe subbasin_ 9082 0.5639 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe testnrecv_ 8901 0.5526 libmpi.so rco2.24pe openib_wrapper_purge_requests 7425 0.4610 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe scobimain_ 7378 0.4581 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe scobi_interface_ 6530 0.4054 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe setvbc_ 6471 0.4018 libfmpi.so rco2.24pe pmpi_iprobe 6341 0.3937 rco2.24pe rco2.24pe snap_



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