>>>> * I think pidora has some scripts somewhere to "resize the image"
>>>> and to
>>>> "create a swap file", should we include them into redsleeve somewhere,
>>>> or is that to big a deviation from PNAELV
>>> It's not a deviation at all. A script that puts a swap partition at
>>> the end of the media and runs "resize2fs /" is a minor change.
>> I found that they have those scripts in firstboot. which is quite nice.
>
> Yup, that is probably a good way to do it.
>
>> I'll check if the modules are compatible with our firstboot
>> I think it would be good to install firstboot on such an image. on the
>> downside, firstboot "needs" an awful lot of packages, including all
>> kinds of X-libs.
>
> Not ideal. :(

OK I investigated a bit.
Apparently firstboot can be run in text as wall as in gui mode.
I have not found if/how the menu can be changed in text mode.
For the gui mode, the system is modular and pidora adds modules to here.

for gui mode, you really need X present and start in runlevel5.

So maybe this would be good for a possible gui image. One image
cli/minimal for the people that want to start with a clean system and
know what to do and one with a gui and some more guidance.

however:
- the pidora firstboot modules do not reliably work on RedSleeve. mostly
they give all the screens, but the changes are not committed  to disk.
- the Pidora firstboot won't easily install on RedSleeve
- GUI mode is horribly slow. X picks fbdev as a standard driver. This
should probably be changed to something PI specific. On other pi distros
I saw a lot of emphasis on the VC drivers. But I've never investigated
how this is supposed to work.
- The one other "must have" application I had in mind was a software
installer gui. The one that comes with gnome does not work well enough.
It misses some file that should define packages into groups. We do not
have that file. ('yum grouplist' returns empty)

bottom line, I think that creating a good working GUI image is really a
lot of work. And personally I do not expect to run a gui on my PI ever.
(it is doing measurements in the metering closet, and does that headless)

Jacco

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