Am Mittwoch, den 08.07.2009, 13:41 +0200 schrieb Olaf Mueller:
> Dag Wieers wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> > On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Olaf Mueller wrote:
> >
> >> Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
> >>
> >>> Joe Ogulin wrote:
> >>>> I am running CentOS 5.3.  I thought it was just going to be two
> >>>> packages... perl-MP3-Tag and perl-Unix-Process... then today, it
> >>>> added 5 more.
> >>
> >>> Great. So you mix Centos, rpmforge and random other packages and now
> >>> all of a sudden it is a rpmforge problem?
> >>> Please make sure that you only combine Centos and rpmforge
> >>> repositories before you start to report problems.
> >> I have a server with only CentOS and rpmforge as repos and it breaks
> >> dependencies on perl packages. And this is a problem by rpmforge
> >> cause of building new perl packages without solving all dependencies.
> >>
> >> Great. I don't mix repos on this server and rpmforge breaks yum.
> >> And now? What should I do? Give me your good suggestion.
> >>
> >> Your complete answer is wrong, the original poster has a problem with
> >> rpmforge repo. It is no others repo fault.
> >
> > Maybe we should ask money so people can demand something to be changed
> Is this your goal for rpmforge repo? To take money?
> It is your own choice. So do it or do it not, but don't ask me.
> The only question, I will ask me than is "is it worth to pay for"

No that is not the goal. I guess his intention was to express that you
don't have any rights to demand something.
> .
>
> > Remember that we are doing that in our spare time and if dependencies
> > are not met it is because we don't have the time nor the
> > infrastructure to do it better.
> I have also CentOS clients running with rpmforge repo enabled on. You,
> the rpmforge team, have always done a good job. Thank you for that and
> for your time.
>
> > You shouldn't be using RPMforge anyway if your systems are so
> > critical.
> In my opinion that is an important statement. One of my server is a
> mailserver with only clamav packages from rpmforge for mail scanning. I
> will think about alternatives.
>
> CentOS, epel and other yum repos are all serious projects with the aim
> to be stable as possible. I always thought rpmforge is such a project
> too.
> Maybe a 'testing before delivering' rpmforge-repo would be a good
> choice. But you are right, nobody forces me to use rpmforge.

Well i have to disapoint you your assumptions were wrong. Most (nearly
all) packages in rpmforge are not tested at all. A lot of packages do
not even build. And today i learned that there is dozens of missing
dependencies all aover the place (repoclosure output is > 700 lines).

So the general advise, if you use rpmforge packages in production test
all updates before using them.
>
> I have answer to Hugo van der Kooij mail cause he informed the original
> poster wrong. It is not the fault by other repos. Stand to your own
> mistakes and don't take the user of your repo for an idiot.
>

I did quite offensively! Noone from rpmforge team ever said it was
someone elses fault. But i have to say I have the impression some users
are overreacting a bit. You can always exclude a failing package. Only a
few packages are affected and I fix them right away.

So as I said before, please report any findings I will fix them ASAP,
but please do not expect enterprise quality from rpmforge.

Chris



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