On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 09:54, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Friday 16 April 2004 20:16, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > > > Is it only me to find this highly awkward?? > > > Why would you find it awkward? > > Work is starting on the next generation well before there is a 1.0 release for > the masses to use, sounds like lack of focus on development effort.
That's simply not true, when the first alpha release is out there will be more of an explanation, the code for maven2 is not a recent thing. It's been in one form or another for more than a year. Actually, probably longer. > A product like Maven with an extremely high dependency ratio would either need > evolutionary development of the 1.x series or, if the 1.x is so flawed that > the 2.x is necessary, then abandon 1.x before it is released and the support > demand sky-rocket. I'm certain 1 and 2 will co-exist for sometime and the plan is to backport the components in maven2 into maven1 along the 1.x cycle. Even when the first alpha of maven2 is released I doubt anyone is going to jump ship. The 1.0 release is needed and that's what's going to happen. A first beta of maven2 won't be released for months because though entirely functional now it needs to pass through the scrutiny of user feedback. For the time being users should be thankful that by sheer force of will Brett is going to get the 1.0 release out. > So, the awkwardness lies in; We are struggling to get to terms with a > pre-release of 1.0, and get to know that by the time 1.0 hits the shelves, we > would be dying for the 2.0 features, and be back in a pre-release state. The 1.0 release is going to be here for quite a while I imagine. In addition, the biggest, nastiest bugs have been removed in the maven2 components and many of those can be integrated in the 1.x cycle. The plan was to get the 1.0 out without severely radical changes and then integrate the components in along the 1.x path bring the 1.x and 2.x behaviour closer together. > Q; Maybe you can shed some light on what _you_ believe to be release dates for > 1.0 and 2.0 respectively? The 1.0 release is in Brett's hands but looks to be a few weeks away. A few weeks after that I will release the first alpha, but there is a list of criteria that needs to be satisfied first will most likely be longer. But even once that is released there will be series of surveys presented to users on usage patterns, there are use cases we have come up with and during the alphas we will incorporate any additional use cases provided by users. I don't expect the first beta for maven2 to be around until the fall. > > Cheers > Niclas -- jvz. Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maven.apache.org happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder ... -- Thoreau --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
