In this case it is not the mechanics of running the releases. With Surefire it's really a matter really taking a look at what's being tested. I know we try but incompatibilities have been known to slip in, or configuration changes. With unlocked plugin versions this potentially bites people in the ass. Yes we should be able to do releases, yes people should lock down plugin versions but we know in practice otherwise.

I would check with Dan Fabulich on the dev list what he thinks the state of the plugin is before attempting a release.

On 2009-10-12, at 3:55 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote:

I'll run a release if I can figure out how ;-)

(I'm not sure if it is ready for a release, but I am a release early & often kind of guy... the only other thing I'd consider is merging the failsafe mojos into surefire)

Sent from my [rhymes with tryPod] ;-)

On 12 Oct 2009, at 23:52, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com> wrote:

That or just change the version and keep it in a repository not exposed to everyone else. We can easily make a repository for them in Nexus.

On 2009-10-11, at 11:24 PM, Dan Tran wrote:

Jason, I am not sure how Cayenne can cut its release with a private
copy of surefire plugin.  Checkin  the private copy surefire plugin
and change it  to cayenne group id?

-D



On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com> wrote:

On 2009-10-11, at 10:54 PM, Dan Tran wrote:

yes, I did cut a sureplugin release my self at work, however since you
are an apache project, dont think you can release Cayenne with a
private copy of surefire.


This isn't a problem. I'm not sure when anyone here will get around to releasing Surefire so making an internal release is perfectly fine. Their
world can't stop just because ours is moving a little slower.

Perhaps you can file a JIRA to release 2.5, i am sure lots of folks
will vote for it, that will get attention.

-Dan

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Andrey Razumovsky
<razumovsky.and...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, we can if we want to - we have a repository which can be used for
such
artifacts. So you advice to make a *local* copy of 2.5-SNAPSHOT and use
it
until official 2.5 is released?

Thanks,

2009/10/12 Dan Tran <dant...@gmail.com>

since Apache Cayenne cant just fork its own copy of surefire plugin, i
think releasing 2.5 is badly needed.

-D

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Barrie Treloar <baerr...@gmail.com >
wrote:

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Andrey Razumovsky
<razumovsky.and...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

While enchancing our Hudson builds here at Apache Cayenne, we got
bitten

by

SUREFIRE-551. It is now fixed, but doesn't exist in any released

version.

We've found the snapshot in http://repository.apache.org/snapshots/ .
So

our

questions are:
1. Is 2.5-SNAPSHOT stable enough?
2. Can we rely on http://repository.apache.org/snapshots/ repository
in

our

builds (i.e. aren't there any plans to delete snapshot from that
repo)?
3. When official 2.5 will be released?

Thanks,
Andrey


For 1) & 2) NEVER rely on snapshots for your builds.

There are a number of problems with using the snapshot repository. 1) You can't select which snapshots to use, it is all or nothing. So if you aren't following best practice and locking down plugin versions then you will automatically start using snapshot versions when you
didnt want to.
2) Snapshots get rebuilt so it may work one day and fail the next.

I wrote up the steps I use for this scenario
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/Patching+Maven+Plugins

Essentially you take a copy of the source and build a local version of
the plugin.
If you use a suitable numbering scheme when the official release
arrives it will replace your patched version.

I can't answer 3) for you.

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