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Le 25 sept. 2011 à 14:27, Baptiste MATHUS <[email protected]> a écrit :

> And what would be the benefit of storing that information over using a
> corporate super-pom, which is the way to go to define corporate-wide
> versions to be used?
> 
> I don't think having things outside the build context is a good idea.
> Settings.xml is necessary, but it should stay as small as possible IMO, that
> is: basically almost only contain the corporate mrm address.
+1

Jeff
> 
> Storing plugin versions outside the project itself would create a whirlwind
> of unreproducible issues, which were typical before maven 2.0.9.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 2011/9/25 Andy Glick <[email protected]>
> 
>> Robert,
>> 
>> I believe that you have explained that the super pom or some important
>> aspects of it reside in artifact-handlers.xml  and that if I were to modify
>> it and build a new version of Maven that I would have modified the super pom
>> and universally changed the version of a plugin available from the command
>> line without a pom in a manner that would be both controlled and repeatable?
>> 
>> That is useful information, I appreciate the suggestion. Though it does
>> seem to me that this information is quite valuable and ought to be more
>> widely disseminated.
>> 
>> Is it possible that this file, or some parts of it, could be exposed as a
>> public resource and available for configuration similar to settings.xml?
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/25/11 5:38 AM, Robert Scholte wrote:
>> 
>>> That should be http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**
>>> maven/maven-3/tags/maven-3.0.**3/maven-core/src/main/**
>>> resources/META-INF/plexus/**artifact-handlers.xml?view=log<http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/maven-3/tags/maven-3.0.3/maven-core/src/main/resources/META-INF/plexus/artifact-handlers.xml?view=log>
>>> 
>>> And here you see that the maven-deploy-plugin uses version 2.5
>>> 
>>> -Robert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:32:03 +0200
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Can I configure the version used as default for Maven
>>>> plugins?
>>>> 
>>>> "To get what you want, just put a minimal pom.xml into the directory from
>>>> which you invoke your mvn goal and use pluginMgmt to bump the version"
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. This and the tip from Kristian, that the goal always is invoked
>>>> as<groupId>:<artifactId>:<**version>:<goal>, seems to be the two choices
>>>> to configure the plugin version used and of them seems use of the qualified
>>>> name then often be the easiest choice.
>>>> 
>>>> I understand the reason to why the default version of the plugins used
>>>> not is just updated every time, that seems wise, and as I understand it is
>>>> it in the pluginManagement of the super pom where the default version of
>>>> plugins with a prefix is configured. Just because I am a bit curious did I
>>>> also have a look at the super pom which I found should be located in the
>>>> file org/apache/maven/model/pom-4.**0.0.xm in the JAR
>>>> lib/maven-model-builder-3.0.3.**jar but I didn't find the configured
>>>> plugin versions there. Now it is only about curiosity : ) but where do I
>>>> find this configuration?
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, thanks for good information! It is interesting to learn these
>>>> details about Maven to better understand how it works.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonny Andersson
>>>> 
>>>> 2011-09-25 10:35, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The best practice for poms is to always specify a version of plugins.
>>>>> 
>>>>> before Maven 2.0.8 the plugins used in the standard lifecycle did not
>>>>> have their version specified in the superpom that is baked into Maven
>>>>> itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This meant that if a plugin was updated and cause a breakage for
>>>>> people, _everyone_ had the pain until they set the version explicitly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So from 2.0.9 onwards, Maven has included baked in versions for the
>>>>> plugins invoked by the baked in packaging's lifecycles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Every time there is a release of Maven, we typically bump up the
>>>>> versions to the next version that we think is stable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3.0.x now has baked in warnings that you should specify the plugin
>>>>> version in your pom, that is so that at some stage, think 3.1.x or
>>>>> maybe 4.0.x we can remove the baked in versions _hack_ that was
>>>>> necessary to allow us to release versions of some critical core
>>>>> plugins (such as m-compiler-p) without fear of causing major issues
>>>>> for people who had not baked the version into their pom.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The side-effect of all this is that if you are execution mvn plugin
>>>>> goals directly from the cli in a directory that does not have a
>>>>> pom.xml and you want to use a newer version, you need to call out the
>>>>> full long form of the plugin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To get what you want, just put a minimal pom.xml into the directory
>>>>> from which you invoke your mvn goal and use pluginMgmt to bump the
>>>>> version
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Stephen
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 September 2011 09:12, Jonny Andersson<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But it still seems strange to me that<prefix>:<goal>  for the
>>>>>> maven-deploy-plugin always gives me version 2.5 (for Maven 3.0.3) and
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> the newest available version 2.7. I also tried to delete version 2.5
>>>>>> from my
>>>>>> local repo one time with version 2.7 left and tried again which caused
>>>>>> version 2.5 to be downloaded. What makes me confused is that I don't
>>>>>> understand where Maven 3.0.3 looks to see that it is version 2.5 that
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be used every time. I have not tried but I guess this same version
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> used when invoked as part of a pom if not set explicitly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jonny Andersson
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2011-09-25 10:05, kristian wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> from the command-line without a pom.xml - yes you need to use the full
>>>>>>> plugin name
>>>>>>> <groupId>:<artifactId>:<**version>:<goal>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Kristian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Jonny Andersson<[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I just remembered something I have read a while ago in "Maven: The
>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>> reference" from Sonatype which partly answers my question ... The
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>> ~/.m2/repository/org/apache/**maven/plugins/maven-metadata-**central.xml
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> where the prefix deploy is bound to maven-deploy-plugin and this
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> bypassed with the explicit name of the plugin wanted like
>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.plugins:**maven-deploy-plugin. Of some reason is
>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>> id
>>>>>>>> not included in the prefix mapping and definitely not the version so
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> not fully answer my question. well, a workaround is of course to
>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> the qualified name of the plugin with the version included when it is
>>>>>>>> invoked from the command line.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jonny Andersson
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2011-09-25 09:32, Jonny Andersson wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your information. Use of pluginManagement in a parent pom
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> gain control over which plugins that are used seems to be a good
>>>>>>>>> advice.
>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>> I can't see how it could give control over which version of a plugin
>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>> used when the goal for the plugin is invoked from the command line
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> command mvn deploy:deploy-file ... But there seems to be somewhere
>>>>>>>>> configuration that decides that the default version used for that
>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>> should be 2.5, not the newest available version in the central
>>>>>>>>> repository,
>>>>>>>>> 2.7.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jonny Andersson
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2011-09-25 06:31, kristian wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> have a look at how it is done via
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> mvn help:effective-pom
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - Kristian
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Andy Glick<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You would normally do this by using a pluginManagement tag in your
>>>>>>>>>>> pom
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> in that context declaring the plugin and setting the version to
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.7.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is
>>>>>>>>>>> particularly useful in a parent pom because the version will be
>>>>>>>>>>> inherited by
>>>>>>>>>>> all child poms. Then you would not include the version tag in the
>>>>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>>>>> declaration in the plugins tag.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that it may be possible to configure this in a site super
>>>>>>>>>>> pom.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/24/11 6:22 AM, Jonny Andersson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a question that I guess already have been asked somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have not been able to find the answer myself. The question came
>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> ran the command mvn deploy:deploy-file on the command line and
>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the arg sources (given as -Dsources=...) wasn't recognized. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> turned
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the command mvn deploy:deploy file always resolves to
>>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn org.apache.maven.plugins:**maven-deploy-plugin:2.5:**
>>>>>>>>>>>> deploy-file
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> where I would like it to resolve to resolve to version 2.7
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.plugins:**maven-deploy-plugin:2.7:**deploy-file
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> as that version have the sources arg as an option so the question
>>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> it possible to configure which version of the plugin the
>>>>>>>>>>>> unqualified
>>>>>>>>>>>> commands for a plugin like mvn deploy:deploy-file should resolve
>>>>>>>>>>>> to?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use Maven 3.0.3 (r1075438; 2011-02-28 18:31:09+0100) in Win XP
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> java
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.6.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any information about this!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonny Andersson
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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