>>>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:40:13 +0100, Charles Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>> I recommend you forget that the flag exists and make the tests
>> faster.

> That doesn't necessarily help.  If all of his tests take 0.1 second
> on average, but he has 1000 tests, it still takes 100 seconds to run
> them all, which may still be unacceptably long to wait when running
> frequently.

Then they would still be too slow I guess.  There are projects with
many more than 1000 tests that run in a reasonable time (
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/collections/junit-report.html ).
Everyone has a threshold wrt build times.  

Maven runs the tests on each build because that is a best practice in
our industry.  They should be fast and focused tests, otherwise maybe
the build should not be dependant upon them ( the slow ones that is, in
which case you could move them into a separate testing project ).

In my experience, slow running tests usually have external
dependencies ( files, database, network ) which slow them down.  I try
to have unit/programmer tests not depend on anything external.  Those
tests ( that depend on external systems ) are important, and should
exist.  But having the build depend on them may not be wise.

This has been discussed on this list before, sorry if I came off too
harsh, I was really trying to help.

>>  >>>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:49:06 +0100, Kenny MacLeod
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> 
>> > Folks, I currently have a project where the unit tests take a >
>> considerable amount of time to run (5 minutes or so), and as a >
>> result, running them every time I do a build is proving
>> impractical.  > Initially, I just added the maven.test.skip flag to
>> my > project.properties, but this isn't a good solution, mainly
>> because > if I explicitly want to run the unit tests, I have to
>> take the flag > out again.
>> 
>> > What I want is for the unit tests not to be run when i do a
>> build, > but I do want them to run if I explicitly say so.  The
>> interactions > between the Java and Test plugins don't seem to be
>> flexible enough > to allow this.
>> 
>> > My current solution is to move the unit tests out to a seperate >
>> project, but that seems like an arse-backwards way of going about >
>> it.  Can anyone suggest a better approach?
>> 
>> I think you may be onto something here.  If they are so long, maybe
>> they aren't unit tests and should be moved.

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