On 27/06/2013 12:30 PM, Martin Gainty wrote:
At some point
you may become dissatisfied with <modelVersion>4.0</modelVersion model
"limitations" in which case you will learn XML and become an expert and you will develop
a)new ComplexTypes
b)new XSDs that reference these new ComplexTypes
c)create a new Model from the newly created XSDs
d)build out a whole new (plexus-)classworlds-(newVersion).jar implementing the
constructs from the new XSDs
Eclipse deliberately obfuscates 99% of the "unnecessary engineering details" from the eclipse operator(s)
On the other hand
*If* you can write a plugin for Eclipse (lets say a Android Terminal Emulator)
you have my respect
to write an eclipse plugin you will have to know xml (specfically plugin.xml)
so eclipse can 'register' your plugin
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Plug-in-architecture/plugin_architecture.html
the analogy of learning XML in order to properly implement Maven is
if you purchase a Masserati but you are unable to drive a stick then it stays
in the garage
That is a bit extreme. It is more like
"if you purchase a Masserati but don't take a performance driving course, you will
not get as much use out of it as if you did."
You can build a multi-module Java application for the web in Maven, without
doing anything more than editing with the GUI in Eclipse and occasionally
copying and pasting some XML. This should be well within the capabilities of a
competent Java programmer after reading the Maven docs and skimming one of the
Maven books (do one or two example POMs from the book just to make sure that
you are getting it).
Ron
Martin-
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Subject: RE: Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:54:20 +0000
I agree wholeheartedly.
Cody Fyler
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On 27/06/2013 11:35 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I would argue that to be a competent, modern computer programmer, you DO need
to learn XML.
There are many powerful things that can be accomplished once you have that
knowledge.
You are right that in general XML is useful for lots of things and that people who know
lots of technologies have a much broader palette of solution components However, the
specific question relates to Maven and you really do not need to have any more knowledge of
XML than understanding that <something> will be terminated by </something> and
that they can be nested.
You can use an IDE that will give you a graphic editor for your POM files.
You can cut and paste models of POMs. Your graphic editor should spot any XML
validation errors.
Ron
Cody Fyler
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Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:31 AM
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Subject: Re: Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?
Hi Nayana,
Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?
No, if you use Eclipse you can configure your POM in its graphical editor.
Other IDEs may have similar things.
Even if you edit POMs by hand, XML is "human readable" meaning you don't really
need an in-depth understanding of XML in order to hack together a Maven POM.
My definition of "learn XML" would be more like:
* Understand basics: elements vs. attributes, etc.
* Understand XML validation; e.g. XSD and DTD
* Understand XSLT stylesheets
* Understand parsing: SAX, DOM and XPath
And you certainly do not need to know those things to configure a Maven POM.
Regards,
Curtis
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Is it necessary to learn XML in order to lear Maven?
Thanks
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