That's odd. Let me run my test again.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Robert Patrick
<robert.patr...@oracle.com> wrote:
> I can confirm that it is not possible to override a project property in a 
> plugin with Maven 3.3.9.  I am not sure what the expected behavior is but 
> trying to override a pre-initialized value (from command-line -Ds, 
> .mvn/maven.config, or the POM) from a plugin has no effect...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M. Richey [mailto:mric...@gmx.de]
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:16 AM
> To: users@maven.apache.org
> Cc: Maven Users List
> Subject: Aw: Re: Re: [Regression] Declared properties could not be modified 
> anymore within a plugin
>
> Thanks Benson, but it does not work for me.
>
> During the execution it says:
>
> [main] [DEBUG] define property osgi-version = "1.0.0.v20161010082844"
>
> But in the MANIFEST.MF it says:
>
> Manifest-Version: 1.0
> Built-By: maik
> demo: bad
> Created-By: Apache Maven 3.3.9
> Build-Jdk: 1.8.0_66
>
> So, as I said before, during the execution the property gets set and the 
> pre-initialized value is used afterwards.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Maik
>
>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 08. Oktober 2016 um 16:45 Uhr
>> Von: "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com>
>> An: "Maven Users List" <users@maven.apache.org>
>> Betreff: Re: Re: [Regression] Declared properties could not be
>> modified anymore within a plugin
>>
>> https://github.com/benson-basis/prop-override-example
>>
>> Seems to be a demo that
>>
>> https://github.com/basis-technology-corp/basis-build-helper-maven-plug
>> in
>>
>> overrides properties.
>>
>> Using:
>>
>> private void defineProperty(String name, String value) {
>>     if (getLog().isDebugEnabled()) {
>>       getLog().debug("define property " + name + " = \"" + value + "\"");
>>     }
>>     project.getProperties().put(name, value); }
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:35 AM, M. Richey <mric...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >> Thanks Benson to point that out, it's a good example.
>> >>
>> >> We have several use cases where we modify properties with our plugins. We 
>> >> have a large variety of our software which to build for up to three 
>> >> brands. For which brand a specific software is to build is defined 
>> >> outside the poms and provided by our plugin. As we all know you can't 
>> >> loop inside the poms. So we execute a plugin once for each brand to find 
>> >> out if this variant should be build for the brand specified. Therefore we 
>> >> defined a property in the pom.xml, pre-initialized with a default value, 
>> >> and if the software should be build for one brand, the brand is appended 
>> >> to the list, i.e. the value of the property, during the execution of our 
>> >> plugin. So the value of the property may be something like 
>> >> "default,brand1,brand3" after the executions of the plugin.
>> >>
>> >> So for us it is a blocker at the moment that one can't modify properties 
>> >> during the execution of a plugin anymore.
>> >>
>> >> Benson, you said you have some of these working with 3.3.9. Can you give 
>> >> an example of a plugin where this is working? I would like to see how 
>> >> they are doing it in their code.
>> >
>> > I'd better do a test to ensure that they are working as well as I
>> > think they are and then get back to you.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >>
>> >> Maik
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 02. Oktober 2016 um 22:04 Uhr
>> >>> Von: "Benson Margulies" <bimargul...@gmail.com>
>> >>> An: "Maven Users List" <users@maven.apache.org>, i...@soebes.de
>> >>> Betreff: Re: [Regression] Declared properties could not be
>> >>> modified anymore within a plugin
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 30/09/16 15:20, mric...@gmx.de wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Hi all,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> we discovered a problem with properties defined in a pom.xml.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Properties could be defined in a pom.xml like:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <properties>
>> >>> >> <myProp>default</myProp>
>> >>> >> </properties>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> In a maven plugin we fetch all the properties by calling:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Properties projectProps = project.getProperties();
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Running all this with maven 2 we were able to modify the value of 
>> >>> >> "myProp"
>> >>> >> within the plugin by:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> projectProps.put("myProp", "newValue");
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> So after the execution of the plugin, the property <myProp> has
>> >>> >> the value "newValue".
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Running all this with maven 3 that does not work anymore.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > First I would say this is by design wrong, cause if you define a
>> >>> > property in the pom file I would like to be sure that it will be
>> >>> > kept the value I have given and if a plugin (which could it be)
>> >>> > will change that I will be really astonished.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Apart from that my question: Why do you need to change existing
>> >>> > properties and why not changing the in the pom which is more
>> >>> > clearer than mysteriously chaning a property by a plugin?...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Can you give more details about your use case ? Best would be
>> >>> > having a real workign example and what kind of problems you are
>> >>> > trying to solve with this approach?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Kind regards
>> >>> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
>> >>> >
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>> >>> Here's why this is important.
>> >>>
>> >>> Consider a plugin with the job of setting a property, like many of
>> >>> the build-helper goals, or the build-number plugin.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now, consider an IDE. The IDEs don't, in general, know about these
>> >>> plugins. They get confused when they don't have a value at all.
>> >>> So, SOP is is to put a harmless default into the POM, and count on
>> >>> the plugin overwriting it. I have some of these working with
>> >>> 3.3.9, so there must be something more subtle going on.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >
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