Ok, I'll address some points in order.  My current command line is this:
----------------------
mvn -e archetype:generate -DgroupId=com.att.idp -DartifactId=MyApplication
-Dpackage=com.att.idp -DarchetypeGroupId=com.att.idse
-DarchetypeArtifactId=idse-springmvc-archetype
-DarchetypeVersion=2.0.0-SNAPSHOT
--------------------------

And this is a relevant excerpt of the pom.xml from the archetype:
--------------
 <groupId>com.att.idse</groupId>
<artifactId>idse-springmvc-archetype</artifactId>
<version>2.0.0-SNAPSHOT</version>

<name>IDP Jersey Archetype</name>
<description>Maven Archetype for creating the IDP microservices
project</description>

<packaging>jar</packaging>
----------------------------------------

Note that it uses the "jar" packaging, but I'll come back to that later in
this message.

Running this results in the following:
--------------------------
10:41:09 [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:3.2.1:generate
(default-cli) on project standalone-pom: The defined artifact is not an
archetype -> [Help 1]
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.LifecycleExecutionException: Failed to execute
goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:3.2.1:generate
(default-cli) on project standalone-pom: The defined artifact is not an
archetype
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:215)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:156)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:148)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleModuleBuilder.buildProject
(LifecycleModuleBuilder.java:117)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleModuleBuilder.buildProject
(LifecycleModuleBuilder.java:81)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.builder.singlethreaded.SingleThreadedBuilder.build
(SingleThreadedBuilder.java:56)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleStarter.execute
(LifecycleStarter.java:128)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute (DefaultMaven.java:305)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute (DefaultMaven.java:192)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.execute (DefaultMaven.java:105)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.execute (MavenCli.java:972)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.doMain (MavenCli.java:293)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.main (MavenCli.java:196)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0 (Native Method)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke (Method.java:566)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.launchEnhanced
(Launcher.java:282)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.launch
(Launcher.java:225)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.mainWithExitCode
(Launcher.java:406)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.main
(Launcher.java:347)
Caused by: org.apache.maven.plugin.MojoFailureException: The defined
artifact is not an archetype
    at
org.apache.maven.archetype.mojos.CreateProjectFromArchetypeMojo.execute
(CreateProjectFromArchetypeMojo.java:225)
    at org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultBuildPluginManager.executeMojo
(DefaultBuildPluginManager.java:137)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:210)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:156)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:148)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleModuleBuilder.buildProject
(LifecycleModuleBuilder.java:117)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleModuleBuilder.buildProject
(LifecycleModuleBuilder.java:81)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.builder.singlethreaded.SingleThreadedBuilder.build
(SingleThreadedBuilder.java:56)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleStarter.execute
(LifecycleStarter.java:128)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute (DefaultMaven.java:305)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute (DefaultMaven.java:192)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.execute (DefaultMaven.java:105)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.execute (MavenCli.java:972)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.doMain (MavenCli.java:293)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.main (MavenCli.java:196)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0 (Native Method)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke (Method.java:566)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.launchEnhanced
(Launcher.java:282)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.launch
(Launcher.java:225)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.mainWithExitCode
(Launcher.java:406)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.main
(Launcher.java:347)
Caused by:
org.apache.maven.archetype.exception.ArchetypeGenerationConfigurationFailure:
The defined artifact is not an archetype
    at
org.apache.maven.archetype.ui.generation.DefaultArchetypeGenerationConfigurator.configureArchetype
(DefaultArchetypeGenerationConfigurator.java:171)
    at
org.apache.maven.archetype.mojos.CreateProjectFromArchetypeMojo.execute
(CreateProjectFromArchetypeMojo.java:209)
    at org.apache.maven.plugin.DefaultBuildPluginManager.executeMojo
(DefaultBuildPluginManager.java:137)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:210)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:156)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.MojoExecutor.execute
(MojoExecutor.java:148)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleModuleBuilder.buildProject
(LifecycleModuleBuilder.java:117)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleModuleBuilder.buildProject
(LifecycleModuleBuilder.java:81)
    at
org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.builder.singlethreaded.SingleThreadedBuilder.build
(SingleThreadedBuilder.java:56)
    at org.apache.maven.lifecycle.internal.LifecycleStarter.execute
(LifecycleStarter.java:128)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute (DefaultMaven.java:305)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.doExecute (DefaultMaven.java:192)
    at org.apache.maven.DefaultMaven.execute (DefaultMaven.java:105)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.execute (MavenCli.java:972)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.doMain (MavenCli.java:293)
    at org.apache.maven.cli.MavenCli.main (MavenCli.java:196)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0 (Native Method)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
    at jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke
(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke (Method.java:566)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.launchEnhanced
(Launcher.java:282)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.launch
(Launcher.java:225)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.mainWithExitCode
(Launcher.java:406)
    at org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.launcher.Launcher.main
(Launcher.java:347)
-----------------------------

Next, if we attempt to change the "packaging" to "maven-archetype" as you
state, and as shown in the examples, I get this when I try to "mvn install"
that:
----------
Unknown packaging: maven-archetype @ line 14, column 13
----------

I am using Maven v3.8.2. I tried testing with v3.9.2, and it gets the same
error.


On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 3:05 AM Herve Boutemy <hbout...@apache.org> wrote:

> it looks you're getting an issue finding your archetype jar in your local
> repository, and the message is misleading: I'd love to improve it
>
> can you share the stacktrace of your failed execution (add -e to your
> command line)?
>
> You can in parallel look at simple archetypes source code, to see the
> happy path, like
> https://maven.apache.org/archetypes/maven-archetype-simple/ and its
> source
> https://github.com/apache/maven-archetypes/tree/master/maven-archetype-simple
>
> look at its pom.xml (that has maven-archetype packaging): I hope your own
> archetype project uses this packaging), do "mvn install" to install
> 1.5-SNAPSHOT, and "mvn archetype:generate
> -DarchetypeGroupId=org.apache.maven.archetypes
> -DarchetypeArtifactId=maven-archetype-simple
> -DarchetypeVersion=1.5-SNAPSHOT" to generate a project from it
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> On 2023/10/06 16:11:36 David Karr wrote:
> > Thanks for the responses. I've gone through this, but I still don't see a
> > solution.
> >
> > In our archetype project, I am running the
> "archetype:create-from-project"
> > goal and then running "mvn install", and then referencing the installed
> > archetype in a work directory, which fails with the given error. I'm
> > thinking that running "c-f-p" in the root of the archetype project is not
> > exactly what is required, but I have no idea.
> >
> > I still have no idea why it's saying it's not an archetype, but I imagine
> > you would conclude the same thing.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 4:32 PM Herve Boutemy <hbout...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > reading the mini guide
> > >  https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-creating-archetypes.html
> > > I see that it mixes the archetype = the jar that is stored to the
> > > repository and the archetype project = the Maven project that will
> create
> > > the archetype jar
> > >
> > > please look at the schema in the plugin page:
> > > https://maven.apache.org/archetype/maven-archetype-plugin/
> > > It shows the full lifecycle:
> > > - from an eventual sample project
> > > - to an archetype project
> > > - to the built archetype
> > > - an finally to the project generated from the archetype
> > > and it lists the goals of the maven-artifact-plugin to go from one
> step to
> > > the next one
> > >
> > > The mini guide only covers writing the archetype project by hand, and
> > > building it to get the archetype jar
> > >
> > > I hope this will help understanding the wider logic, before digging
> into
> > > eventual bugs or not clear messages when something gets wrong
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > On 2023/10/05 23:15:50 Herve Boutemy wrote:
> > > > documentation probably also needs love:
> > > > you found the mini-guide, but not the plugin reference documentation
> > > that explains much more:
> > > https://maven.apache.org/archetype/maven-archetype-plugin/index.html
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure mini guide was updated as it should
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Hervé
> > > >
> > > > On 2023/10/05 20:38:20 David Karr wrote:
> > > > > I support and maintain a platform used by a couple hundred
> > > > > SpringBoot/JAX-RS/Maven/K8S services.  When new services are
> created, a
> > > > > Maven archetype is used to create the service skeleton.  This has
> > > worked
> > > > > fine for quite a while.
> > > > >
> > > > > We're now working on a variation using SpringMVC instead of
> JAX-RS, and
> > > > > eventually making that the default.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of my team members took the existing Jersey/JAX-RS archetype
> > > project,
> > > > > made a copy, and then changed a bunch of things for SpringMVC
> instead
> > > of
> > > > > JAX-RS.  We installed that archetype in our local maven repo for
> > > initial
> > > > > testing, using "mvn install".
> > > > >
> > > > > We run a command line like the following:
> > > > >
> > > > >     mvn archetype:generate -DgroupId=com.org.idp
> > > -DartifactId=MyApplication
> > > > > -Dpackage=com.org.idp -DarchetypeGroupId=com.org.idse
> > > > > -DarchetypeArtifactId=idse-springmvc-archetype
> > > > > -DarchetypeVersion=2.0.0-SNAPSHOT
> > > > >
> > > > > The "archetypeVersion" property value corresponds to the version
> > > attribute
> > > > > in the pom.xml of the archetype.
> > > > >
> > > > > This produces the following output:
> > > > > --------------------
> > > > >  [INFO] Generating project in Batch mode
> > > > > [WARNING] Archetype not found in any catalog. Falling back to
> central
> > > > > repository.
> > > > > [WARNING] Add a repository with id 'archetype' in your
> settings.xml if
> > > > > archetype's repository is elsewhere.
> > > > > Downloading from nexus:
> > > > >
> > >
> https://repocentral.it.att.com:8443/nexus/content/groups/att-public-group/com/att/idse/idse-springmvc-archetype/2.0.0-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml
> > > > > [INFO]
> > > > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > [INFO] BUILD FAILURE
> > > > > [INFO]
> > > > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > [INFO] Total time:  52.232 s
> > > > > [INFO] Finished at: 2023-10-04T13:33:46-07:00
> > > > > [INFO]
> > > > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
> > > > > org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-archetype-plugin:3.2.1:generate
> > > > > (default-cli) on project standalone-pom: The defined artifact is
> not an
> > > > > archetype -> [Help 1]
> > > > > [ERROR]
> > > > > [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven
> with
> > > the -e
> > > > > switch.
> > > > > [ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug
> logging.
> > > > > [ERROR]
> > > > > [ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible
> solutions,
> > > > > please read the following articles:
> > > > > [ERROR] [Help 1]
> > > > >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/MojoFailureException
> > > > > --------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > This doesn't tell me WHY it thinks this is not an archetype.
> > > > >
> > > > > I find some confusing docs about creating and installing
> archetypes.
> > > > >
> > > > > I found this page:
> > > > >
> https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-creating-archetypes.html .
> > > > > This example is curious, as the pom.xml for the archetype
> references
> > > the
> > > > > "archetype-packaging" extension, but the text says nothing about
> this.
> > > In
> > > > > fact, it clearly says "All you need to specify is a groupId,
> > > artifactId and
> > > > > version". Neither our working archetype or the new one references
> that
> > > > > extension.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also found this issue:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARCHETYPE-529
> > > > > . No one ever responded to this, so perhaps the reporter is way
> off. I
> > > see
> > > > > that this mentions the "create-from-project" goal. This is not
> > > mentioned in
> > > > > the previous doc page.
> > > > >
> > > > > What else can I look at to debug this problem?
> > > > >
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