While IBM is a big player in the Eclipse Fdn, I found their application
server, Open Liberty, pretty reliable.
It has a great feature set, you can even have one installation for all
JakartaEE version (something which most app servers cannot do) and it is
really fast. The guides are also really helpful and well written.
That said, I have no reservations against IBM software, especially this one.
IBM also contributes to Eclipse Yasson (the JSONB/JSONP implementation)
and other implementations,
as well as Apache httpd and other software.
- Ben
On 21/11/2025 17:58, Tommy Svensson wrote:
My mail client did not include this in answer, so I copied it here so this
would make more sense.
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Howdy,
Jetty is from IBM? You mean it is from Eclipse?
AFAIR, Jetty "moved in" under the Eclipse umbrella but originally it
was not an Eclipse project....
It started on the venerable Codehaus as I remember
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Sorry, My head told me Jetty was from IBM, and I believed it! I am aware that
my head is not aways right, but it has a tendency to believe itself. So I will
not swear on this!
These days I'm no longer working, only hobby coding on GitHub. I do have a
strong aversion to IBM, and now when I have the full say of everything in my
personal projects I try to keep away from anything IBM. I'm not going to
explain where my IBM dislike comes from. I'm not even sure I legally can.
Tommy Svensson
[email protected]
Från: Tamás Cservenák <[email protected]>
Svara: Maven Users List <[email protected]>
Datum: 18 november 2025 at 18:51:31
Till: Maven Users List <[email protected]>
Ämne: Re: UnderTow
Howdy,
Jetty is from IBM? You mean it is from Eclipse?
AFAIR, Jetty "moved in" under the Eclipse umbrella but originally it
was not an Eclipse project....
It started on the venerable Codehaus as I remember....
T
On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 6:30 PM Tommy Svensson <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for all answers, I have decided to take a deeper look at Jetty. The only
thing I have against Jetty is that it is from IBM! But that said their big,
old office in Stockholm are now inhabited by birds and rats! i.e. not much have
changed ...
Tommy Svensson
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Från: Timothy Stone <[email protected]>
Svara: Maven Users List <[email protected]>
Datum: 18 november 2025 at 15:42:48
Till: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Ämne: Re: UnderTow
On 11/18/25 09:05, Nils Breunese wrote:
Op 18 nov 2025, om 14:33 heeft Tommy Svensson <[email protected]> het volgende
geschreven:
...snip
Can anyone suggest an alternative ? I just want to be able to do HTTP/S
requests and receive HTTP/S requests. This in its simplest form possible.
For doing requests: Java has HttpClient built-in since JDK 11. (In older JDK
versions you only get HttpURLConnection, which is not fun to work with
directly.) If JDK HttpClient doesn’t serve your needs, check out Apache
HttpClient, Jetty HttpClient or Reactor Netty HttpClient.
For receiving requests: the JDK has a simple HttpServer API. For anything
slightly serious I’d consider embedding Tomcat, Jetty or Reactor Netty.
I would personally use an application framework like Spring Boot or Quarkus,
which typically provides integrations like these out of the box, but this might
be overkill for your use case.
All great answers. I'm going to throw my hat in the ring for Tomcat.
Been an in production user, at global finance scale with millions of
daily and 1000s of concurrent users*, for more than 20 years, since v4
(possibly v3 and the first releases).
Issues will always be present, in your favorite tooling, even in the
tooling you write. They are ever present trade-offs: "Can I live with
this?" If the issues you have in Undertow are security related, the
trade-offs may be made for you and you'll have to mitigate and chase
patches.
HTH,
Tim
* there's always the architecture involved that supports that,
horizontally scaled instances, load balancers, session "umbrellas," and
a little bit more.
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