ok, I'll add the spring pom

On 11/21/05, Chad Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matt Raible wrote:
> > On 11/19/05, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'll try to put a bit of light at this.
> >>
> >> - I've put the spring jars in the repo so you guys can use them in m1 and 
> >> m2
> >> - At first there were no poms because it takes me some time to have them 
> >> ready
> >> - I'm working on the poms, I've put the ones i was using first, but
> >> there was no optional dependencies though, so now I'm pretty close to
> >> have them ready with the optional stuff.
> >>
> >> About spring full jar, I don't suggest you to use it depends in a lot
> >> of stuff, in fact I don't know if I'll make a pom for it.
> >>
> >
> > IMO, there should be a POM for Spring - mainly because I believe that
> > there's a lot of folks just using spring.jar rather than the
> > individual JARs.
> >
> I completely agree with this, why would I want to include 5 dependencies
> if all I need to include is one?
> >
> >> To make
> >> transitive dependencies work correctly you should add only what you
> >> need.
> >>
> >
> > Sure, but shouldn't ease of use be a concern as well?
> >
> >
> >>  I believe that if you depend on
> >>
> >> spring-support
> >> spring-orm
> >> spring-hibernate
> >> spring-remoting
> >> spring-core
> >>
> >> you get the same things as in spring jar.
> >>
> >
> > So now I have to have 25 lines of XML in my pom.xml - instead of 5 for
> > spring.jar?  Ugh.
> >
> I couldn't agree more.  I think all these emails about transitive
> dependency issues proves there really should be an option to turn them
> off for a given dependency.  Transitive dependencies are a great idea,
> and work in a lot of cases, but a lot of times you just want to turn
> them off and specify the dependencies you need.
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >> About the groupId you should use org.springframework. Just
> >> springframework will work but it's just a relocation to
> >> org.springframework.
> >>
> >> If you wanna know the status of this you can subscribe to the jira
> >> issues MEV-108 and MEV-133.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the inconvenience.
> >>
> >> On 11/19/05, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Stephen,
> >>>
> >>> I was using groupId=springframework, but switched to
> >>> org.springframework when I tried to upgrade 1.2.6 today.  I was hoping
> >>> to revert back to springframework and have all my problems solved -
> >>> but no dice.
> >>>
> >>> The easiest thing for me to do seems to be to upload my own POM and
> >>> JAR to my own repository.  This is likely what I'll do for many
> >>> dependencies since the ibiblio repository seems to change dependencies
> >>> often - and just when you think you've got a library cleaned up -
> >>> something like this happens.
> >>>
> >>> Matt
> >>>
> >>> On 11/19/05, Stephen Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Matt,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been using a groupId of springframework, instead of
> >>>> org.springframework.  Also I've started depending on the individual
> >>>> spring modules, instead of the full jar.  Same issue though: a bunch
> >>>> of exclusions.  Usually a new version (such as Spring 1.2.6 right now)
> >>>> has no dependencies at first, but then a week or so later they add all
> >>>> the dependencies in.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a couple of the Maven Evangelism tickets open about the issue:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-108
> >>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-133
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's the current dependencies with exclusions I have (in a global
> >>>> parent POM in dependencyManagement).  Note that parts are particular
> >>>> to me, because I'm using Hibernate 2 and not 3, for instance.  Still,
> >>>> it's a start:
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-aop</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>commons-attributes</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>commons-attributes-compiler</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>commons-attributes</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>commons-attributes-api</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>aopalliance</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>aopalliance</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>commons-pool</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>commons-pool</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>oro</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>oro</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>com.jamonapi</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jamon</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-beans</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>cglib</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>cglib</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-context</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>velocity</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>velocity</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>freemarker</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>freemarker</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>jasperreports</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jasperreports</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-core</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-web</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>javax.servlet</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jsp-api</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>javax.servlet</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jstl</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>struts</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>struts</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>com.servlets</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>cos</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>taglibs</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>standard</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>javax.faces</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jsf-api</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-dao</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>javax.transaction</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jta</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>jotm</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jotm</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-jdbc</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>commons-dbcp</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>commons-dbcp</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>c3p0</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>c3p0</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>com.experlog</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>xapool</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-hibernate</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>org.hibernate</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>hibernate-annotations</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>org.hibernate</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>hibernate</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-orm</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>spring-webmvc</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>javax.jdo</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jdo</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>com.oracle</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>toplink-api</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>com.ibatis</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>ibatis-sqlmap</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>com.ibatis</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>ibatis2-sqlmap</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>ojb</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>db-ojb</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>                         <dependency>
> >>>>                                 <groupId>springframework</groupId>
> >>>>                                 <artifactId>spring-webmvc</artifactId>
> >>>>                                 <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>                                 <scope>compile</scope>
> >>>>                                 <exclusions>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>velocity</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>velocity</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>velocity-tools</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>velocity-tools-generic</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>velocity-tools</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>velocity-tools-view</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>poi</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>poi</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 <groupId>itext</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>itext</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                         <exclusion>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <groupId>net.sourceforge.jexcelapi</groupId>
> >>>>                                                 
> >>>> <artifactId>jxl</artifactId>
> >>>>                                         </exclusion>
> >>>>                                 </exclusions>
> >>>>                         </dependency>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -Stephen
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/19/05, Matt Raible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've been using Spring 1.2.5 in my project for the past couple of
> >>>>> weeks.  The transitive dependencies feature of M2 has seemed to work
> >>>>> great b/c there were no dependencies for Spring.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          <dependency>
> >>>>>             <artifactId>spring</artifactId>
> >>>>>             <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >>>>>             <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>>         </dependency>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, as of today (possibly earlier, since I just deleted my local
> >>>>> repo this morning), I now have to exclude a whole bunch of
> >>>>> dependencies.  Below is a list of ones I had to exclude just for M2 to
> >>>>> download everything and run "mvn test". To really clean this up and
> >>>>> prevent a bunch of unused JARs in my project, it's likely I'd have to
> >>>>> greatly expand this list to include quartz, freemarker, velocity, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (more comments after the xml below)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          <dependency>
> >>>>>             <artifactId>spring</artifactId>
> >>>>>             <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
> >>>>>             <version>1.2.5</version>
> >>>>>             <exclusions>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>activation</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.activation</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>mail</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.mail</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>toplink-api</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>com.oracle</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>ejb</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.persistence</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>ejb</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.ejb</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>jta</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.transaction</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>connector</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.resource</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>jaxrpc</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.xml</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>                 <exclusion>
> >>>>>                     <artifactId>jms</artifactId>
> >>>>>                     <groupId>javax.jms</groupId>
> >>>>>                 </exclusion>
> >>>>>             </exclusions>
> >>>>>         </dependency>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since spring.jar only depends on commons-logging, shouldn't the rest
> >>>>> of these be marked optional?  How did this change in the last couple
> >>>>> of days - did someone upload a new POM for Spring to ibiblio?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Matt
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Stephen Duncan Jr
> >>>> www.stephenduncanjr.com
> >>>>
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