Could we not come up with our own standard for myfaces for the time being?  And hopefully the JCP will follow suit or at least make for an easy transition.  This is such an essential thing these days especially with everyone seeing what Google is doing lately.

Travis

Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
As far as I understand it,
it should be addressed at JCP, isn't it?
Since these guys define the standard for
JSF.

Regards,
Matthias

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 5:58 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Sean Schofield
Subject: Re: _javascript_ getElementById Issues


There needs to be a better way than that. Every decent 
_javascript_ library 
out there uses getElementById() to manipulate elements and 
allow people to 
build dynamic web apps. A "solution" that requires either 
wrapping every 
component usage in a proxy tag or overriding all of the 
components isn't 
tenable. People building dynamic web apps are not going to 
adopt JSF with 
those kinds of constraints imposed on them.

I can see why there might be issues with components inside of 
something 
like a data grid. But this can be overcome by, for example, 
taking the id 
provided and adding an index using a well-defined scheme, so 
that other 
_javascript_ code can know how to identify the relevant elements.

--
Martin Cooper


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004, Heath Borders wrote:

    
It really becomes a problem when you start using dataTables 
extensively in your applications.  Since JSF is iterating over the 
content, you can't exactly specify an id for it (it would always be 
the same!).  My suggestion is to use j4j's proxyId tag.  It 
      
basically 
    
allows you to define a clientId.

You could also override all the default components to just 
      
use their 
    
id as their clientId, but it would probably be quite an 
      
annoyance to 
    
do.


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:51:49 -0500, Sean Schofield 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
      
A major stumbling block for me with JSF is how the implementations 
all seem to "munge" the id attributes of my JSF tags.  I'm 
        
assuming 
    
this helps with constructing the component tree and 
        
mapping the posts 
    
to the right components, but does it have to be this way?

Both MyFaces and the RI change the id attribute.  Couldn't 
        
they just 
    
change the name attribute?  Isn't that the only thing that is sent 
via POST?  We have tons of _javascript_ that use the getElementById 
method and this would be a problem changing it.

I know there are some workarounds with using special tags, 
        
etc. but 
    
that seems like a lot of trouble to avoid something that 
        
is likely a 
    
problem for many others.

sean

        
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