Sure! and also another member of MyFaces team is in expert group of JSP 2.1. (Bill Dudney)
Both teams work together, as the website of JCP says... :-) So I guess MyFaces' issues and solutions will be addressed in EG's disscussions. Regards, Matthias > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:13 AM > To: MyFaces Discussion; Sean Schofield > Subject: Re: Plans to include at least parts of MyFaces into JSF? > > > I just want to add that one of the two founders of the MyFaces project > - Manfred to be more precise - is a member of the JSF expert > group. And I believe he will be bringing up the major issues > we all have had in using and developing MyFaces there as well... > > regards, > > Martin > > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:32:54 -0500, Sean Schofield > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It still amazes me that there is no regular mailing list > for JSF. I > > > hate those forum approaches. Email is so much more conveinient. > > > > +1 on that one > > > > > True, but had you not been diligent enough to look elsewhere > > > (MyFaces) you mention you might have given up. I was in the same > > > boat. JSF might lose some good people that just don't > have the time > > > or energy to look elsewhere. > > > > Agreed. I think this would apply most to issues where there are > > significant shortcomings. For me, the javascript problem was very > > significant shortcoming (the rest of my team was > recommending we drop > > faces investigation until it was resolved in the spec.) > > > > Major issues should be addressed as quickly as possible by > the JCP. I > > think they are doing their best to resolve them. Of course what > > consistutes a major issue is also open for debate. > > > > I'm increasingly coming to view JSF as really just another building > > block for a framework. Just as Struts (and other > frameworks like it) > > are built on JSP and Servlet. JSF is a great starting point upon > > which you can build more sophisticated frameworks. > > > > If everyone moves in this direction, that would be a good > thing. Now > > we would all have JSF in common as well as JSP and Servlets. That > > would make it easier to switch from one framework to > another because > > at least you have a common starting point. (Plus stuff from one > > framework should be more usable in another.) > > > > Craig seems to be taking this approach with Shale. > Recognizing that > > JSF doesn't do everything he is building more on top of it. > He also > > has made a point about how there is no need to reinvent the > stuff that > > JSF manages to take care of for you. I think that is the > key to how > > we as developers should move forward. Embrace JSF and move on. > > > > I probably shouldn't speak too much for Craig or Shale though. I > > still haven't had time to get into the details of his > proposal (I am > > still working on mastering JSF first.) > > > > > Rick > > > > sean > > >
