> *After* he checks the commons validator support into
Shale :-)
> Oh wait, he just did :-)
> Craig

So, since this is a MyFaces mailing list, I'm going to
ask what I hope to be a fairly obvious question :-)

Why did the commons-validator support go directly into
the Shale Core rather into MyFaces Extensions?  There
are a couple of nice non-JSF-core Validators in the
MyFaces extensions, but the Shale commons-validator
support appears to be more flexible and more useful to
those who still have to work with both Struts and JSF
apps (and don't have the luxury of using Shale yet).

Can we expect to see an equivalent flexible
commons-validator in the MyFaces project/extensions
lib anytime soon?

For those using straight-JSF for the time-being, it
would be much nicer to be able to pull in a simple
extension JAR that includes the validator than to pull
in all of Shale Core or to have to convince their mgmt
that including a sample from a book verbatim in an app
is ok (mgmt tends to be comfortable with apache sw
these days, but not necessarily book samples
maintaining the book's package names and
copyright...).

In the StrutsShale Proposal, it was stated that:

"Compared to Struts 1.x, support for client side
validation and layout management (Tiles) are
explicitly excluded from the core controller
framework. This is not based on any belief that the
functionality is not valuable -- it belongs properly
in the view tier, and should be managed there as a
separate subproject."

Thanks in advance...



                
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