Ok I give up, my point (wanting just the tag without
the overhead of the pieces I don't want) obviously
isn't getting across, so I'll either have to end up
including all of the shale core in my webapps or use
some of shale source and not others and build the
pieces myself or implement my own tag against
commons-validator (haven't looked to see if the tags
from David's book are under an apache-equivalent
license or not)...

One question though, if I did try to use it against
the Shale core jar (using just the validation tag and
no other parts of the Shale core (yet)), isn't there a
faces-config.xml in the Shale core jar that will end
up configuring JSF extensions (and thus overhead like
view/navigation handlers/wrappers?) that I won't be
using and don't necessarily want taking up resources
for no good reason (in apps that just want to use
straight JSF for now)?...

If anybody else knows of JSF tag(s) for general
commons-validator use besides David's book and Shale,
that I should be evaluating (vs writing my own) please
let me/us know...



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