Re: Oracle ADF JSF

[Jonas Jacobi]

Hi All, Thanks Jesse! As mentioned earlier in this thread Oracle is a big company and, no secret, moves slowly.  Jozef, I'm very sorry that you feel that way about ADF Faces. It would be very interesting to know specific details about what is not working and what issues you have been running into. The skinning feature has been completed and is implemented in EA17, but as with any new features there are still bugs preventing some components to render custom skins properly. This has been addressed in subsequent releases, which I hope we can release at the end of this month. For the data model I'm not sure I understand your complaint? I have had no problems implementing support for our components, even the tree component. A concrete sample or description of the problem would be appreciated. (We are working on more samples and documentation for ADF Faces) For the pricing, yes it is expensive, but this is for the entire Oracle ADF package IF you are NOT deploying on an Oracle AS.  We already have two developers (John Fallows and Adam Winer) getting acquainted with the MyFaces source code to see what it brings and what we can contribute to the MyFaces project. Jonas Jacobi ADF Faces Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) wrote: -----Original Message----- 2. Oracle will never extend MyFaces component palette; they just test their components with MyFaces runtime. -----/Original Message----- Check the messages in this mailing lists history very carefully. Particularily I mean the second message of Jonas Jacobi: -----Original Message----- Forgot to add the following comment: 3. Note that we are planning and working with the MyFaces development team, to contribute our components to the MyFaces project. There are still things that need to be solved, so for now the above statement about pricing is what is officially available from Oracle regarding Oracle ADF (and ADF Faces is part of the overall Oracle ADF bundle). -----/Original Message----- I think that IS QUITE CONCRETE... -----Original Message----- 3. ADF Faces are still not skinable with CSS. -----/Original Message----- They are still in EarlyAccess phase. Maybe you should tell them. Maybe it's on their plans already... -----Original Message----- 4. Datamodel behind ADF-Faces components is ugly and complicated; try to use some tree-like-components and you will see. -----/Original Message----- There are thoughts behind it. True it is more a buy-it-all situation. But maybe within some time and the help of Oracle's developers on this list, we might learn its advantages and how to use ADF-components without buying into the full modell. Every single component that we can use isolated helps JSF development. regards Alexander -- ------------------------------------------------------- Jonas Jacobi Principal Product Manager - JSF & ADF Faces Oracle JDeveloper Oracle, Redwood Shores, CA Blog: http://www.orablogs.com/jjacobi Site: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/jsf.html