Maybe the loadbundle problem occurs more often, but if we not forbid to
use verbatim inside of ajax components there is also a problem.
Regards
Volker
Martin Marinschek wrote:
> not f:verbatim - not using this very much.
>
> f:loadBundle is the problem.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 11/17/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Can you give an example of how this verbatim thing is causing you
>>problems? I tend to agree with the reasoning that Adam gave on this
>>one.
>>
>>sean
>>
>>On 11/17/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>yes, my old friend f:loadBundle.
>>>
>>>major PITA, this thing ;)
>>>
>>>both that it is only evaluated in the JSP processing, but there only
>>>in the render response phase - shouldn't that happen much earlier?
>>>couldn't it be that we need the reference to an I18n text much earlier
>>>in the lifecycle?
>>>
>>>regards,
>>>
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>On 11/17/05, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I see the problems, but i still think it should be possible to have
>>>>verbatim content inside of ajax updated components. And i don't see any
>>>>chance to partialy re-execute the relevant jsp files .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - <c:if> will not re-execute, so if its condition has changed,
>>>>
>>>>could be replaced by using rendered attribute on jsf tags
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Resource bundles provided by <f:loadBundle> will not be available
>>>>
>>>>could be solved by a session scoped resource bundle tag
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Any EL expressions evaluated inside tags will not re-evaluate
>>>>
>>>>I currently don't know of those, but IMHO the evaluation of EL
>>>>expressions should moved inside component or renderer than.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So, to enable ajax updated panels we need custom tags for verbatim and
>>>>loadbundle.
>>>>
>>>>Any more problems or other solutions ?
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>> Volker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Adam Winer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This is required by the spec because:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Performance - in the general case, saving the state for these is a
>>>>> waste
>>>>> - Re-evaluation - if you've got, say, ${} EL expressions inside
>>>>> <f:verbatim>,
>>>>> or any dynamically generated content from a tag, you'd better re-run
>>>>> the
>>>>> JSP or you'll be showing stale content.
>>>>>
>>>>>The second problem is important and cannot be resolved by changing
>>>>>"transient" on f:verbatim.
>>>>>
>>>>>Note that you've got other, likely bigger problems if you attempt to render
>>>>>without re-executing the JSP:
>>>>> - <c:if> will not re-execute, so if its condition has changed, ah well
>>>>> - Resource bundles provided by <f:loadBundle> will not be available
>>>>> - Any EL expressions evaluated inside tags will not re-evaluate
>>>>>
>>>>>-- Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 11/16/05, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i just came over a problem with verbatim tags in ajax enabled components.
>>>>>>see:
>>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/users%40myfaces.apache.org/msg12124.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The UIOutput components created for verbatim tags are not saved to state
>>>>>>because there are explicitly set to transient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This makes it impossible to use verbatim tags in content of ajax
>>>>>>components.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a spec reason for this, then we should have a tomahawk
>>>>>>verbatim, or is this just because of performance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If not a spec reason this should be changed because seems to be a bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>> Volker
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