Well, I'm done already - so I might do it now as well.
Sadly, the summary will be very short as I left early today and didn't get to see the three other JSF sessions that were happening today and tomorrow. So I missed Roger Kitain talking about JSF1.2 - I did stop him down on the corridor though and we discussed what else we could implement of 1.2 without breaking 1.1 compatibility. He confirmed what I had thought before; that we could implement the new view creation stuff - see also the mails I just exchanged with Jacob - without touching any APIs. He suggested the multiple renderkit feature also - but this wouldn't work without API changes. David Geary talked about Shale - I guess it was the same content than over at ApacheCon. There will also be a "Bitter JSF" talk tomorrow - don't ask me about the content of that one ;) On monday, John, Jonas and I were splitting up a 3 hour session halfway. I did the first half and gave a short introduction to JSF, MyFaces (custom components and features), and then I tried to cover the five most asked questions on the mailing list with a Tipps&Tricks section. I did have show some demos additionally and did some live programming. John and Jonas presented ADF Faces (or Cherokee, how Oracle wants to call its donation to the ASF) and announced that Oracle would open source 104 components of ADF Faces. They showed off some of the components - and some of the advanced features of the component set, like caching, skinning, etc. The interest level for the whole session was very high, we got the large conference room assigned and that one filled up pretty well (around 700 out of 900 seats taken). There weren't any major glitches, as far as the session went. The AJAX presentation at JavaPolis was really, really well done (with live coding of an AJAX enabled input-field), and was also completely booked ;). The Seam session today was full as well, even though there were several objections mouthed against Seam in the questions after the session - so it wasn't all positive there. As with Studio Creator - the last time I evaluated it, I couldn't change the directory structure to what my web-app looked like. Has that been fixed already? Same problem as with Eclipse and WTP... regards, Martin On 12/15/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree people are starting to become less scared of JSF now and are > willing to take a second look. What was the interest level at > JavaPolis? > > Speaking of second looks, I'm installing Sun Java Studio Creator 2 > (now that its free.) Craig recommended that I take a look at some of > the new features. Be sure to download the latest EA release (you have > to hunt around for it - its not the standard download.) > > Anyways, lots of new things to try out after Apache Con ... Maybe you > can give us a brief summary of JavaPolis when you are done? > > sean > > > On 12/14/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's good news! > > > > It's really interesting how much steam JSF (and MyFaces) has picked up > > in the last few months with regards to user interest. > > > > And thank goodness, I didn't hear anymore at JavaPolis that JSF is > > overly complicated. People complain about component development not > > being easy, but actually working with JSF as a web developer is seen > > as being pretty straightforward. > > > > regards, > > > > Martin > > > > On 12/15/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just got back from Apache Con in San Diego. It was very well > > > attended (one of the hotel staff told me there were over 500 > > > attendees.) Of special interest were the two MyFaces sessions > > > conducted by our own Matthias Wessendorf and Gerald Muellan. > > > > > > Both MyFaces sessions were extremely well attended. The first session > > > was an overview of JSF and what MyFaces brings to the table. I told > > > Matthias and Gerald that they could tell the seesion went well because > > > 90% stayed for another hour long session covering Ajax and MyFaces. > > > > > > Thanks to Matthias and Gerald for making the trip and putting all of > > > the hard work into the presentation. I was proud to see them up there > > > on the stage representing our community. The large turnout for the > > > sessions also seemed to mirror the recent trends on our mailing list. > > > There was certainly a lot of curiosity for MyFaces if not outright > > > interest. Expect more newcomers to the mailing list after those > > > talks! > > > > > > There were also some interesting Struts sessions. The first session > > > focused on what is now being called the Struts Action framework, > > > including some details on the recently announced WebWorks merger. The > > > second session focused on Struts Shale. That session was also well > > > attended. I had not seen Craig's Shale talk until that point but it > > > was an excellent overview of the project. Craig also unveiled a few > > > new editions that are coming to Shale, some of which he was working on > > > in between sessions at the conference. > > > > > > If you are a JSF developer you should definitely keep an eye on where > > > Shale is headed. An alpha release is expected shortly and the entire > > > Struts team is working to collaborate on areas of overlap between the > > > Action and Shale frameworks. This combined with more user feedback > > > should move this project along nicely. Don't let the "alpha" status > > > fool you. This is primarily so the API isn't locked up in the first > > > release. Its definitely production ready though. My team is > > > currently using it in my day job. > > > > > > Its an exciting time to be part of the Apache community. I expect > > > more great things to come out of the next year. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > Courses in English and German > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
