MyEclipse is a commercial IDE built on Eclipse right?  I'm curious to
know a fellow developer's opinion on what some of the improvements
over free Eclipse are ...

Sean

On 2/9/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean Schofield schrieb:
> > I personally love JBuilder but it is very pricey.
> I think you brought up the main point, now that the enterprise stuff
> finally again is moving into sane domains pricewise (Thanks to Sun and
> MyEclipse) Borland simply cannot afford to charge this money for their
> stuff anymore.
> Borland started as a tools vendor with moderate prices at a time where
> tools simply cost a fortune. So lots of people who wanted to learn
> programming started to use their tools, lots of professionals as well
> who could not afford the heavy priced alternatives.
>
> Once Kahn was kicked out they lost this strategy and pushed a high price
> strategy with Enterprise plastered all over it (probably a stupid idea
> of some MBAs taking over internally)
>
> > By JBuilder X they
> > really worked out most of the kinks.  I tried Eclipse but everything
> > was too much of a PITA to get working.  Every time I try switching to
> > another IDE I just keep going back to good 'ole JBuilder.
> >
> Well it never was the quality, yes JBuilder had some kinks but overall
> the quality always was okay, the problem with Borland always was with
> the management, not really knowing where there core assets and core
> market was.
> (The whole Inprise fiasco was self made, for the same reasons why people
> were moving away from JBuilder in masses the last years)
>
>
> The funny thing is that others like MyEclipse currently have huge
> success with the same strategy Borland had 20 years ago.
> But those companies are not driven by MBAs but by people who saw a need
> for something like a cheap tool alternative to the expensive enterprise
> IDEs because many developers simply cannot afford that stuff.
>
> And just to sum it up, I have seen about 10 companies in the recent past
> using MyEclipse and none using JBuilder anymore. The reason for most was
> that the price was right and the tool was good enough.
>
>
>

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