Hi Martin,

Here are a couple of ideas I've jotted down:

  * Native support for conversation scope.

* Support for partial requests (i.e. AJAX). I imagine this would be along the lines of standardising the request and response formats for partial requests, and requiring a javascript implementation.

* Ability to invoke actions on first page request. When you're linked from other sites, or from a mail client you can't really expect them to send the whole state of the component tree, which would be needed to invoke an action from that tree (although this does work). Instead, you might be able to create a new action listener type which is invoked when the tree it is attached to is created/rendered. Of course, it'd have to fit into the lifecycle somehow. A simple use case for this would be a "click here to vote for struts" link in an email which should invoke a JSF Action{Listener}. Currently you'd probably do this with a PhaseListener or ServletFilter.

* Ability to define converters for annotated classes (e.g. @Entity). We can do <converter-for-class>, which also works for interfaces, but there are cases where an annotation might indicate that a common converter could be used. In the case of @Entity, you might be able to use something like EntityManager.getId(entity).toString() to convert the class (somebody add getId() to JPA 1.1 please!).

* Ability to use #{foo} as an lvalue. Maybe more specific to the EL spec, but ATM only #{foo.bar} can be used as an lvalue. Sometimes I just want to keep a simple string in the session scope and do things like <h:inputText value="#{foo}"/>, but instead I have to make a separate bean just containing a String.

* Reinvestigate, as per Jabob's ideas, whether we /really/ need component state-saving. I got pretty confused when I wrote a simple regexp validator that kept forgetting what the regexp was. It was all there in the .xhtml file! That was until I learnt about state-saving (which was more than I really wanted to know).

  * Dump JSP, and make facelets standard.

Happy Oktoberfest!

Roger


Martin Marinschek wrote:
Hi there,

Ed Burns, Jesse Alexander and me will be heading a discussion on what
our users dreamed JSF 2.0 would be like - on friday, 2006/09/29, in
Munich, at the Oktoberfest.

So it's a good opportunity for both talking about JSF and drinking
beer - probably the best of the world. We'll meet up in:

http://www.weisses-brauhaus.de/

at 18:00

and if you're interested in coming, reply to this mail and I'll
include you in the reservation.

regards,

Martin



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