The version described in Trinidad jar's Manifest is 1.2.11.1-SNAPSHOT  (I'm
using the version bundled in Jdeveloper 11.1.1.1.0).

I intercepted the html generated for the Survey Demo application (
http://www.irian.at/trinidad-demo/faces/surveydemo/surveyStart.jspx) sending
BlackBerry's User Agent v4.1 and got the html below. Something strange: the
form is invoking a function called "submitForm" on click, but this in not
defined or included in the whole page. Also, notice the code isn't xhtml...

¿What do you think? ¿Could be a bug?

Thanks a lot
Francisco

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";><!--Start<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd%22%3E%3C!--Start>:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Document["_idJsp0"]--><html dir="ltr" lang="en">
  <head>
    <title>Survey</title>

    <meta name="generator" content="Apache MyFaces Trinidad">

    <link rel="stylesheet" charset="UTF-8" type="text/css"
href="/trinidad-demo/adf/styles/cache/minimal-pda-nhib3y-en-ltr-blackberry-blackberry-cmp.css">
  </head>
  <!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Document["_idJsp0"]-->
  <body onload="_checkLoadNoPPR()"><a name="top"></a>
    <noscript>This page uses JavaScript and requires a JavaScript enabled
browser.Your browser is not JavaScript enabled.</noscript>
    <!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Form["_idJsp1"]-->
    <form id="_idJsp1" name="_idJsp1" style="margin:0px" method="POST"
action="/trinidad-demo/faces/surveydemo/surveyStart.jspx"><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><div></div><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]-->
  <hr size="2">
          <!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp5"]--><div>
              <h1 class="x6u">Welcome to the Survey Demo</h1>
              <!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Output["_idJsp6"]--><span class="x0">Test your
knowledge of California Driving Laws</span><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Object["_idJsp7"]--><div
style="margin-top:20px"></div><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Command["_idJsp8"]--><input type="submit"
onclick="submitForm('_idJsp1',1,{source:'_idJsp8'});return false;"
class="x7i" value="begin survey"></div><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]-->
          <hr size="2">
          <!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><table
width="100%" summary=""><tr>
              <td align="center"><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.NavigationLevel["_idJsp3"]--><div
class="af_navigationPane"><span class="x42"><span class="x43"><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Command["_idJsp4"]--><a id="_idJsp3:_idJsp4"
name="_idJsp3:_idJsp4" href="#"
onclick="submitForm('_idJsp1',0,{source:'_idJsp3:_idJsp4'});return
false;">Return to Index</a></span></span></div></td>
            </tr><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><tr>
              <td class="x5x" align="center"></td>
            </tr><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><tr>
              <td class="x5y" align="center"></td>
            </tr><!--Start:
org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><tr>
              <td class="x5z" align="center"></td>
            </tr></table>
   <input type="hidden" name="org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.faces.FORM"
value="_idJsp1">
   <input type="hidden" name="org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.faces.STATE"
value="!400864fa">
   <input type="hidden" name="source" value="a">
   <input type="hidden" name="event" value="a">
 </form>
  </body>
  <!--Created by Apache Trinidad (Apache MyFaces Trinidad API -
1.0.10/Apache MyFaces Trinidad Impl - 1.0.10), skin:minimal.pda--></html>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 15:38, Mamallan Uthaman <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Hi Francisco,
>
> The best way to best detect whether JavaScript is being used or not is to
> intercepting your HTTP response using web-debugger like fiddler. You can
> download it from the link below:
> http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/
>
> In your case, I believe it could have happened that though Trinidad doesn't
> use JavaScript, some components might still use some redundant JavaScript
> calls - could be a minor bug.
>
> Could you please tell me the version of Trinidad jars you are using?
>
> Also, Please find my answers for your questions inline.
>
> Thanks
> Mamallan
>
> Francisco Mardones wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm facing problems to post forms in Basic XHTML browsers (modern
> blackberries and desktop browsers work fine).
>
> I noticed form submission invokes a javascript function, even though
> according the docs I should NOT get any javascript:
>
> -----------start snippet-----------------
> "...it supports mobile browsers that support Basic XHTML or XHTML Mobile
> Profile. WAP 2.0 phone browsers are included in this category. Because of
> the hardware performance limitation, Trinidad does not download or use
> JavaScript library on such devices.
>
> The following list shows the examples of Basic XHTML mobile browsers.
>
> (snip)
>
>    - RIM BlackBerry Browser 4.2 ~ 4.5"
>
> -----------end snippet-----------------
>
> I can see the generated code isn't xhtml, and also I see a lot of
> javascript (and particularly to submit the form, using "onclick" event), so
> I'm suspecting Trinidad is not detecting properly which browser is
> accessing. The User Agent for the mobile is "BlackBerry7100i/4.1.0
> Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103"
>
> My questions are:
> 1) How I can debug which browser is detecting?
>
> Use following EL:
> #{requestContext.agent.agentName}
> #{requestContext.agent.agentVersion}
> #{requestContext.agent.platformName}
>
> 2) Is there any way to enforce code generation to basic xhtml?
>
> No, Trinidad has predefine rules which is not configurable.
>
> 3) Can I extend and/or add a new 'renderer' profile in Trinidad? (notice my
> browser is 4.1, and the doc says at least support 4.2 and above, so maybe is
> defaulting wrongly given mine is older...) (as you can imagine after long
> tests now I'm facing the "wild guessing" phase :P )
>
> No
>
> Many Thanks
> Francisco
>
>

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