Hi Francisco,

Doesn't seems like a bug. After seeing the code below, I can conclude that the Survey Demo uses Trinidad 1.x., and is old enough not to have mobile-related changes. Many mobile features and fixes are available in Trinidad 1.2.x only. Please try creating a simple page and test it using Trinidad 1.2.x.

*"<!--Created by Apache Trinidad (Apache MyFaces Trinidad API - 1.0.10/Apache MyFaces Trinidad Impl - 1.0.10), skin:minimal.pda-->" -- taken from Survey Demo's HTML code *

Thanks
Mamallan

Francisco Mardones wrote:
The version described in Trinidad jar's Manifest is 1.2.11.1-SNAPSHOT (I'm using the version bundled in Jdeveloper 11.1.1.1.0). I intercepted the html generated for the Survey Demo application (http://www.irian.at/trinidad-demo/faces/surveydemo/surveyStart.jspx) sending BlackBerry's User Agent v4.1 and got the html below. Something strange: the form is invoking a function called "submitForm" on click, but this in not defined or included in the whole page. Also, notice the code isn't xhtml... ¿What do you think? ¿Could be a bug? Thanks a lot
Francisco
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";><!--Start <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd%22%3E%3C%21--Start>: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Document["_idJsp0"]--><html dir="ltr" lang="en">
  <head>
    <title>Survey</title>
<meta name="generator" content="Apache MyFaces Trinidad"> <link rel="stylesheet" charset="UTF-8" type="text/css" href="/trinidad-demo/adf/styles/cache/minimal-pda-nhib3y-en-ltr-blackberry-blackberry-cmp.css">
  </head>
  <!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Document["_idJsp0"]-->
  <body onload="_checkLoadNoPPR()"><a name="top"></a>
<noscript>This page uses JavaScript and requires a JavaScript enabled browser.Your browser is not JavaScript enabled.</noscript>
    <!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Form["_idJsp1"]-->
<form id="_idJsp1" name="_idJsp1" style="margin:0px" method="POST" action="/trinidad-demo/faces/surveydemo/surveyStart.jspx"><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><div></div><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]-->
  <hr size="2">
<!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp5"]--><div>
              <h1 class="x6u">Welcome to the Survey Demo</h1>
<!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Output["_idJsp6"]--><span class="x0">Test your knowledge of California Driving Laws</span><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Object["_idJsp7"]--><div style="margin-top:20px"></div><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Command["_idJsp8"]--><input type="submit" onclick="submitForm('_idJsp1',1,{source:'_idJsp8'});return false;" class="x7i" value="begin survey"></div><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]-->
          <hr size="2">
<!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><table width="100%" summary=""><tr> <td align="center"><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.NavigationLevel["_idJsp3"]--><div class="af_navigationPane"><span class="x42"><span class="x43"><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Command["_idJsp4"]--><a id="_idJsp3:_idJsp4" name="_idJsp3:_idJsp4" href="#" onclick="submitForm('_idJsp1',0,{source:'_idJsp3:_idJsp4'});return false;">Return to Index</a></span></span></div></td> </tr><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><tr>
              <td class="x5x" align="center"></td>
</tr><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><tr>
              <td class="x5y" align="center"></td>
</tr><!--Start: org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.Panel["_idJsp2"]--><tr>
              <td class="x5z" align="center"></td>
            </tr></table>
<input type="hidden" name="org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.faces.FORM" value="_idJsp1"> <input type="hidden" name="org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.faces.STATE" value="!400864fa">
   <input type="hidden" name="source" value="a">
   <input type="hidden" name="event" value="a">
 </form>
  </body>
<!--Created by Apache Trinidad (Apache MyFaces Trinidad API - 1.0.10/Apache MyFaces Trinidad Impl - 1.0.10), skin:minimal.pda--></html>
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 15:38, Mamallan Uthaman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Francisco,

    The best way to best detect whether JavaScript is being used or
    not is to intercepting your HTTP response using web-debugger like
    fiddler. You can download it from the link below:
    http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/

    In your case, I believe it could have happened that though
    Trinidad doesn't use JavaScript, some components might still use
    some redundant JavaScript calls - could be a minor bug.

    Could you please tell me the version of Trinidad jars you are using?

    Also, Please find my answers for your questions inline.

    Thanks
    Mamallan


    Francisco Mardones wrote:
    Hi,

    I'm facing problems to post forms in Basic XHTML browsers (modern
    blackberries and desktop browsers work fine).

    I noticed form submission invokes a javascript function, even
    though according the docs I should NOT get any javascript:

    -----------start snippet-----------------
    "...it supports mobile browsers that support Basic XHTML or XHTML
    Mobile Profile. WAP 2.0 phone browsers are included in this
    category. Because of the hardware performance limitation,
    Trinidad does not download or use JavaScript library on such
    devices.

    The following list shows the examples of Basic XHTML mobile
    browsers.

    (snip)

        * RIM BlackBerry Browser 4.2 ~ 4.5"

    -----------end snippet-----------------

    I can see the generated code isn't xhtml, and also I see a lot of
    javascript (and particularly to submit the form, using "onclick"
    event), so I'm suspecting Trinidad is not detecting properly
    which browser is accessing. The User Agent for the mobile is
    "BlackBerry7100i/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
    VendorID/103"

    My questions are:
    1) How I can debug which browser is detecting?
    Use following EL:
    #{requestContext.agent.agentName}
    #{requestContext.agent.agentVersion}
    #{requestContext.agent.platformName}

    2) Is there any way to enforce code generation to basic xhtml?
    No, Trinidad has predefine rules which is not configurable.

    3) Can I extend and/or add a new 'renderer' profile in Trinidad?
    (notice my browser is 4.1, and the doc says at least support 4.2
    and above, so maybe is defaulting wrongly given mine is older...)
    (as you can imagine after long tests now I'm facing the "wild
    guessing" phase :P )

    No
    Many Thanks
    Francisco


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