Give us some idea of what the problems are, and maybe we can help? Gj
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:07 PM Judi Rastall <j...@rastall.com> wrote: > I have to admit I'm on the point of giving up with Netbeans 11. Programs > that used to compile quite happily with V8 no longer compile. I am using > images in a subdirectory and the V11 compiler cannot find them so I get > null exceptions and it sulks. > > Judi > > On 09/03/2020 15:52, Chris Olsen wrote: > > Paul (and All) -- > > As they say, "I feel your pain!" The removal of FX was a pain in the > behind for me also, and I am also moving over to Maven from Ant. I am a > complete amateur (though experienced, Java is about my 5th language.) Much > of the more technical discussions among Java developers go way over my head. > > HOWEVER, I have been able to move easily from before to now. My programs > are almost exclusively statistical, and not really pushing the limits of > Java, which situation may not apply to many. I found the transition from 8 > to Java 13 (AdoptOpenJDK) to be unexpectedly painless and the transition to > Maven relatively easy (for the most part just copying over packages and > trying to figure out where to put resources.) > > And I am anticipating 14 soon. > > -- Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Szudzik <pszud...@throwarock.com> <pszud...@throwarock.com> > To: Netbeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.org> > <users@netbeans.apache.org> > Sent: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 11:15:49 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Statement of disappointment > > I have been a NetBeans user since inception. I am retired now, but when > I worked, I was one of the few people in my company that was an advocate of > NetBeans, and used it instead of the company line, Eclipse product. > > Retired now for 10+ years, I used NetBeans to develop my products, and > really getting involved in JavaFX big time. I love the cross platform > capability, and use it on both Ubuntu and Windows. Raspberry Pi, no problem. > Windows, no problem. I loved it. Then boom, Oracle takes JavaFX out of the > mix, and NetBeans and I start having major problems. It gets harder and > harder to use NetBeans with it’s incompatibility with JavaFX without going > through hoops every single time we upgrade. I have a ton of projects that > are a major pain to go back to without having to dance on a high wire to get > to work. And I am still not sure I can do this anymore. > > I have been a computer programmer, designer and architect for well over > 53+ years. I have see many systems come and go, many IDE rise and fall, many > languages surface and crash. The move to Maven is beyond my scope now. I > want to program, not to have to regenerate and rehash my build system every > release. I have tried to move over to 11, and mostly failed. I have too > many modules and programs in play to hack this out. > > It would have been great if NetBeans had a seamless transition , built in > conversions for old projects to current format. Seriously, I would love to > be on that train. But nope, it seems too much handholding and dancing. I > currently have a half dozen active Beta’s that are stuck in a NetBeans 8.1.x > / Java 8 scenario, that I want to port into NetBeans 11.3 / Java 13+ area, > but really don’t believe that it is 1: Easy, 2: Lasting, 3: Enduring more > than another release. > > I still have reported bugs > 5 years old that are not resolved. > > I see streams of notes that are asking questions about compatibility. ( > The latest straw is the Ant image ... ) I see how once the major players in > NetBeans get on a wagon, the trail off is almost impossible. If you’re new > to NetBeans, perhaps this is a good trend. If you have dealt with NetBeans > as long as I have.. it becomes more than just an annoyance. It almost easier > to find another IDE to settle in on, as the amount of work to transfer 100+ > projects, probably more, from old NetBeans to new NetBeans is formidable. > > Maybe a 3rd party can produce a product that 100% transfer old projects > to Maven.. I’d rather develop and code than mess around with trying to make > things move up the NetBeans chain anymore.. Coding is fun, transitioning is > not. I am 100% committed to JavaFX, I like the layouts, I like what Gluon has > done, I like the look and feel. > > NetBeans 8 –> NetBeans 11+ –> convert ... > > I would normally apologize for my rant, but nope. I feel that I am now > progressing backwards... > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, > visit:https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
