Conrad,

Excellent - I think this is a great use case, as well. This is similar to the 
enrichment case, as you are operating
on each piece of data in conjunction with some 'reference dataset' (bad 
domains, etc.) which would likely be
some file, etc. that is configured in the Processor. This is actually similar 
to the ScanContent / ScanAttribute
Processors I think. You may want to review those for 'inspiration' for your 
processor.

At a high level, the way that they work is that they are configured with a file 
that is a dictionary of terms to look
for in the FlowFile. As each FlowFile comes through, it checks if its 
attributes (or content, depending on the processor)
match any of the terms in the dictionary and routes each FlowFile to either 
'matched' or 'unmatched'. The Processor
will periodically check the dataset file and reload the dictionary if the file 
has changed. Typically, GetSFTP or GetHTTP
or something like that would be used to fetch new versions of the dictionary 
and then PutFile would be used to write
the file to a directory. This allows the Scan* processors not to have to worry 
about fetching the data and allows the
data to come from wherever.

Hope this is helpful!

Thanks
-Mark


> On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Conrad Crampton <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> A very helpful explanation and distinction on appropriate use for NiFi. I 
> think my particular use case currently (probably) falls into the Simple Event 
> Processing. I say ‘probably’ because I am bringing in some other data to 
> compare the data against (bad domains and maybe others), but certainly isn’t 
> doing anything clever at the moment in terms of windowing/ aggregation with 
> previously seen data etc.
>  
> Thanks for the advice, very helpful.
> Conrad
>  
> From: Mark Payne <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Reply-To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Thursday, 2 June 2016 at 14:42
> To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: Spark or custom processor?
>  
> Conrad,
>  
> Typically, the way that we like to think about using NiFi vs. something like 
> Spark or Storm is whether
> the processing is Simple Event Processing or Complex Event Processing. Simple 
> Event Processing
> encapsulates those tasks where you are able to operate on a single piece of 
> data by itself (or in correlation
> with an Enrichment Dataset). So tasks like enrichment, splitting, and 
> transformation are squarely within
> the wheelhouse of NiFi.
>  
> When we talk about doing Complex Event Processing, we are generally talking 
> about either processing data
> from multiple streams together (think JOIN operations) or analyzing data 
> across time windows (think calculating
> norms, standard deviation, etc. over the last 30 minutes). The idea here is 
> to derive a single new "insight" from
> windows of data or joined streams of data - not to transform or enrich 
> individual pieces of data. For this, we would
> recommend something like Spark, Storm, Flink, etc.
>  
> In terms of scalability, NiFi certainly was not designed to scale outward in 
> the way that Spark was. With Spark you
> may be scaling to thousands of nodes, but with NiFi you would get a pretty 
> poor user experience because each change
> in the UI must be replicated to all of those nodes. That being said, NiFi 
> does scale up very well to take full advantage
> of however much CPU and disks you have available. We typically see processing 
> of several terabytes of data per day
> on a single node, so we have generally not needed to scale out to hundreds or 
> thousands of nodes.
>  
> I hope this helps to clarify when/where to use each one. If there are things 
> that are still unclear or if you have more
> questions, as always, don't hesitate to shoot another email!
>  
> Thanks
> -Mark
>  
>  
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Conrad Crampton <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
> ListenSyslog (using the approach that is being discussed currently in another 
> thread – ListenSyslog running on primary node as RGP, all other nodes 
> connecting to the port that the RPG exposes).
> Various enrichment, routing on attributes etc. and finally into HDFS as Avro.
> I want to branch off at an appropriate point in the flow and do some further 
> realtime analysis – got the output to port feeding to Spark process working 
> fine (notwithstanding the issue that you have been so kind to help with 
> previously with the SSLContext), just thinking about if this is most 
> appropriate solution.
>  
> I have dabbled with a custom processor (for enriching url splitting/ 
> enriching etc. – probably could have done with ExecuteScript processor in 
> hindsight) so am comfortable with going this route if that is deemed more 
> appropriate.
>  
> Thanks
> Conrad
>  
> From: Bryan Bende <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Reply-To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Thursday, 2 June 2016 at 13:12
> To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: Spark or custom processor?
>  
> Conrad, 
>  
> I would think that you could do this all in NiFi.
>  
> How do the log files come into NiFi? TailFile, ListenUDP/ListenTCP, 
> List+FetchFile?
>  
> -Bryan
>  
>  
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Conrad Crampton <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi,
> Any advice on ‘best’ architectural approach whereby some processing function 
> has to be applied to every flow file in a dataflow with some (possible) 
> output based on flowfile content.
> e.g. inspect log files for specific ip then send message to syslog
>  
> approach 1
> Spark
> Output port from NiFi -> Spark listens to that stream -> processes and 
> outputs accordingly
> Advantages – scale spark job on Yarn, decoupled (reusable) from NiFi
> Disadvantages – adds complexity, decoupled from NiFi.
>  
> Approach 2
> NiFi
> Custom processor -> PutSyslog
> Advantages – reuse existing NiFi processors/ capability, obvious flow (design 
> intent)
> Disadvantages – scale??
>  
> Any comments/ advice/ experience of either approaches?
>  
> Thanks
> Conrad
>  
>  
>  
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