That's been my experience as well. I know a lot of programs tout Word
compatibility, but I've found that compatibility is an elusive feature. When
possible, I'll distill a file down to a plain .txt file to transfer from one
program to another. Of course, I lose all formatting, footnotes and
endnotes, which may not be acceptable. But, I've never been able to cleanly
convert a .doc file into a perfectly formatted .odt file. Something always
gets in the way.
Virgil
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Groenescheij
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:57 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
There's a lot of assumptions here, without seeing
the document nobody can fix it.
Opening a doc file in OpenOffice doesn't convert
the unstructured Microsoft Word file into a
structured OpenOffice file, which works best if
you work with Styles.
Unless you clean-up the document you will have
problems.
Martin
On 4/12/2012 12:39 PM, James Plante wrote:
It's a computer, for chrissake. It doesn't (or shouldn't) care how long a
document is. Programs fault because of either logic errors or runtime
errors. In this case, it looks like memory management may be at fault, or
maybe a dangling pointer or something. I don't really have any idea. Maybe
it's just an integer out of range somewhere, or a bollixed-up hash table.
It's way over my pay grade to fix it, but someone with the necessary
knowledge can d/l Neo's source code (it's based on OOo) and see how
Patrick (Neo's sole engineer) addressed the problem.
At any rate, if word processing is mission-critical, and the word
processor fails in one operation, should you trust it with critical work?
And if it can keep straight the complexity of a master doc, it should be
able to keep track of a single document. One of the reasons I *don't* use
master docs is because of the extra work needed to cross-reference various
parts of a report, e.g., on page 24, see cost analysis in Appendix C, page
98. (And page 98 keeps incrementing as your document grows; it finally
ends up being on page 210--and your cross-reference reflects that.)
I really, really like AOO, but if it faults out on long docs, I'll keep
using Neo until it works without failing.
On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:22 PM, VA <cuyfa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wonder if it might be helpful to save larger works into smaller chunks
and then use the Master Document feature to bring them all together. It
takes some getting used to, but once learned, it has some neat advantages
to trying to edit several hundred pages in one file.
Virgil
-----Original Message----- From: James Plante
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:05 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: ack! Mac Viewing Issues
I've had a similar problem with OOo on the Mac. Got about 170 pages of a
200+ page report done, and the program wouldn't save the file. It started
the aberrant behavior you describe. I closed the file, and opened it in
NeoOffice, a dedicated Mac version of OOO. Worked fine. Find NeoOffice at
http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php. It costs $10 to d/l, but
if it saves your book, it's worth it.
Jim Plante
On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:47 PM, damali ayo <he...@damaliayo.com> wrote:
My apologies Hagar, I did not see that link.
I did change the user profile and it is still acting the same strange
way.
What i find most odd, is how the notes seem to be in the doc, but don't
show up until i click them. Other things I wrote in the notes section
appear then too. It's like a hide and seek game. That's why i think the
information is all there...somewhere.
Is there any other program that you suggest i use to complete work on
this manuscript? Will a new version of MS word be able to import the
.odt file?
Thanks, i think that's my last question, since nothing has changed. :(
damali
Profile location is given here (same topic):
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58401#p58401
There is a link to that post in the very post I've linked.
Hagar
Le 03/12/2012 21:32, damali ayo a écrit :
Hagar,
How do i do this in mac? The link you send does not detail that
process.
damali
Have you tried to reset the profile? It may help.
Hagar
Le 03/12/2012 21:15, damali ayo a écrit :
Thanks! I so appreciate your thoughts.
I had already saved in .odt quite a few times, this was even a "save
as" .odt file i was working on. I had imported it from .doc over a
week (and many many saves) ago. I had not gone back to .doc at all.
I don't have any photos. I do have a table of contents, several
sections (14) and endnotes. I increased the memory to support this
(great tip!), quit and restarted the program, but the problems
persist.
I forgot to mention a symptom...i noticed it was acting strange when
i tried to highlight several lines in the endnotes and it only let
me highlight random portion. So I closed the doc and re-opened.
That's when everything went pear-shaped.
Other ideas?
damali
First, save in native ODF (.odt).
Remember that the .doc import/export filters have been reverse
engineered, you may face some troubles by continuing using this
format.
Always work in .odt and export in .doc when needed only. This way
you keep a secure copy of your document.
If your document has a lot of objects (pictures, ...), try to
increase the memory settings (Tools>Preferences>OOo>Memory).
If no change, you can try to reset your user profile but I doubt it
will change anything in your case:
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58403#p58403
Hagar
Le 03/12/2012 20:55, damali ayo a écrit :
Hello Forum,
I have been chugging along on a 300 page manuscript in Open
Office. I brought it into OO from an old (I mean old) version of
word. All was going well until a few minutes ago when OO seemed to
be reading my document very strangely. The header disappeared, the
endnotes half-disappeared, and when I click on a number in the
text for a note, it takes me to the note at the end but then
others are missing. I have no idea what happened or why. When I
open the document anew it positions me somewhere in the middle of
it.
I have the sense that it's a viewing issue, and the file isn't
actually screwed up...at least I hope so. I have no other way of
opening it though.
I quit OO, restarted my computer, and no changes.
It's slightly terrifying. I've been working on this book for over
a year. Any help would be angelic, truly.
Details:
Involved participants:
Mac OS 10.5.8
Microsoft word v.X for mac (yes i need an entirely new computer, I
know)
OpenOffice 3
Thank you!!
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