On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Dave Barton <d...@tasit.net> wrote:

> Simon Phipps wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Dave Barton <d...@tasit.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Simon Phipps wrote:
> >>> MODERATORS:  I have started rejecting incoming e-mails like this one
> >> with a
> >>> message stating that QuickOffice is unrelated to Apache and AOO and
> they
> >>> should contact their supplier. I suggest other moderators adopt the
> same
> >>> approach.
> >>>
> >>> S.
> >>
> >> -1
> >>
> >> We are MODERATORS, not the list police.
> >>
> >
> > Please explain why you believe questions about QuickOffice are in-scope
> for
> > this list and thus should not be rejected by moderators?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > S.
>
> I do not claim that questions about Quick Office Pro are in-scope for
> the list. My objection is based on the principle, not the Quick Office
> Pro issue itself. As per my reply to Jim, I maintain that, in accordance
> with ASF guidelines, it is not our responsibility to answer posts on
> behalf of the list (albeit by way of rejection notices), or make
> arbitrary decisions about what the list should or shouldn't see or have
> to deal with.
>

I'd welcome other views as I think this outlook is pedantic. Rejecting
irrelevant spam is not "answering posts".


>
> As inconvenient (probably irritating) as it is for list subscribers to
> see this kind of post, we stand at the top of a very slippery slope if
> we, as individuals, start making this kind of unilateral arbitrary
> decision. Many times I see posts held for moderation where my gut
> reaction might be "What the .... has this to do with AOO" or "Oh ....
> this is just another meaningless rant". Do I arbitrarily go with my gut
> reaction and reject it (with a sweet little note), or do I follow the
> ASF guidelines and allow the list subscribers deal with posts to THEIR
> list as THEY see fit?
>

I'm not suggesting filtering or answering relevant forum traffic in any
way, especially not the sort of posts you refer to. QuickOffice posts are
effectively spam and I am suggesting the moderators treat them as they do
the other spam arriving in the queue, except with a polite response to the
confused originator instead of just ignoring them.

I propose that, if the ASF/AOO PMC and more importantly the list
> subscribers, want us to act as (in my opinion) list police, we put this
> proposal forward and if accepted/approved we set up some kind of
> arrangement (eg. a wiki page) to coordinate, agree or compromise on
> these matters


That's overkill for this specific case.  -1

S.

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