On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 13:28 -0600, Rod Engelsman wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > > > > > > I have a question, are you using right and left page styles as opposed > > to the default? If yes then I would check to see what your page breaks > > are doing. Perhaps you do not need some. > > > > This is a long-standing issue that took me awhile to puzzle out. I have > to produce papers for my classes that specify a Title page and then the > next page is numbered starting with "1". The book-centric paradigm of > left/right, even/odd pages is so deeply ingrained into the program that > it applies even when using nothing but the Default page style.
I do not see this when I open the default page style, I see right and left as the page layout. > > The first physical page is assumed to right/odd; the next is assumed to > be left/even and so forth. So what happens is that if you insert a > manual page break and utilize the option to reset the page numbering, > the program decides whether the following page is left or right hand > based on whether the page number is odd or even. > > Take a couple minutes and try this out: > > 1. Create a new blank document. > done. > 2. Open the Stylist, right click on Default page style, and select > "New". Call it "Title Page" and hit "Ok". Used the existing First page instead. > > 3. Assign the new "Title Page" style to the first blank page of your > document. > Assigned First page. > 4. Type a few words, then select "Insert -> Manual Break". Select "Page > Break", Style "Default", check the box to "Change page number" and set > the next page number to "1". Hit "Ok". okay. I see what you mean. However I wouldn't set my page numbering in this manner. > You will notice that the status bar now reads "Page 1 3/3". What > happens is that OOo inserted an invisible extra page between the Title > page and the First page. Invisible in the sense that you don't see it on > screen, but it produces an extra blank page when printed or exported as > a pdf. > > So now you think you have it figured out and you're going to get > clever. :) So you select the First Page style and modify it to only > produce Left hand pages. No joy. If you start on the Title page (first > physical page), select Insert -> Manual Break... and specify First Page > style, and tell it to start with page 1, you get an error dialog that > states: > > "Page numbers cannot be applied to the current page. Even numbers can be > used on left pages, odd numbers on right pages." > > The problem is that there is no setting in the page styles for "Inline" > or whatever you would want to call it. A page *will be* either left or > right, end of discussion. And furthermore, left pages *will be* even and > right pages *will be* odd, end of discussion. It's very stubborn that way. > > Fortunately, there is a work-around!! Here's how I made it work out for me: > > 1. Create a Title page style from Default. > > 2. Lay out your Title page however it needs to look and then at the end, > select "Insert -> Manual Break..." and specify Next Style as "First > Page", numbered 1. You'll get that phantom page baloney, but we'll fix that. > > 3. *Now* go into the Stylist and modify the First page style layout to > be "Left Only". > > Now you will see in the status bar "Page 1 2/2", which is what we want. > The page style following First Page is default and the page numbering > will proceed without surprises from there. > > Like I said, this is a long-standing issue with lots of comments in IZ > (I don't have the issue number handy). A lot of people produce documents > for pdf publication or whatever and the left/right, even/odd paradigm > produces unexpected results. It isn't helped by the fact that there is > absolutely *no* way to set up page styles a priori to make this work > without the workaround I detailed above. > I hadn't noticed. What you describe above is what I have been using without thinking too much about it as it is what I used for SO5.2. Good to know. I will preserve this and stuff it into the user guide at some point. -- PLEASE KEEP MESSAGES ON THE LIST. Documentation Co-Lead http://documentation.openoffice.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
