> Rob Clement wrote:
>> Richard wrote:
>>> Richard wrote:
>>>> this is the second loss I have had, I even pointed autosave to my
>>>> local drive and had this done every 5 minutes, and this is a pain
>>>> cause this does not happen quickly, you have to wait up to 30
>>>> seconds or more, in the time lost now with the documents lost I
>>>> could pay for MS office ten times over. Time to stop wasting my
>>>> time with crap.
>>>
>>>
>>> I apologise to the board for my outburst the loss made me very angry
>>> and guilty that I did not manually save, I have never had this
>>> problem with previous versions 1 and 2 and have gotten used to the
>>> auto save when power problems occur. I have an inverter in place
>>> here as well and my machine is the only one that losses its power
>>> momentarily, switching of in the event of a power failure, a
>>> problem which I seem unable to find a solution for either.
>>>
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>> Would it be better to invest in a UPS to control your power supply
>> problems and prevent your machine from rebooting every time the power
>> cuts out. It seems to me to be a power and hardware problem rather
>> than an OpenOffice problem. The other option would be to use a
>> laptop and the battery in that would prevent your machine from
>> dropping. A surge protector should stop a laptop from being damaged
>> by power surges. Rob
>
> Hey Rob I HAVE AN INVERTER this is a thing that charges/powers a very
> large bank of industrial battery's that runs the entire office, its
> not a UPS, but for some reason my PC looses a split second and does
> not switch immediately but it works extremely well for the other
> office devices running this office (7 PC's, Printers, fax, network
> and even some lighting) for over three hours without power if
> necessary.
> After the power down Rob, the system recovers my file from the backup
> folder, the thing is Rob, the backed up file which I have seen, as I
> checked this after the last disaster, disappears on the recovery?
>
> Other posts say there's works, I suggest you open a document of at
> least half a meg, allow an autosave, then just pull the plug, only
> then can you see if this is working.

Since I'm about to re-image the drive, I tried that just for grins. 
Unfortunately that sort of thing has a lot of dependencies and timing 
can be critical as to the amount of damage that occurs.  Anyway, here at 
least, it worked fine.  Not that I'd be willing to test it again after 
the re-imaging is done<g>.  It was a 1.55 Meg document and contained 
images and tables.

   Other than anecdotal, my "story" proves nothing though.  I could find 
the whole disk trashed next time I tried it; the variances are almost 
infinite.

IMO it sounds more like a power issue than an OOo issue though.  Being 
on an "inverter" alone creates an awful lot of questions which I'm not 
expecting answers to by the way, such as:
--  Is power from the inverter clean?
--  Is it a sine wave or closer to the shape of half circles?  "Half 
Circle" wave shapes are missing a LOT of power potential during the 
nearly vertical, non-sinusoidal excursions.
--  What is the THD if it's sinusoidal.  If it's not sinusoidal all bets 
are off as the voltage is going to be incorrect and nearly impossible to 
measure with any standard meter.
--  Does it have zero-crossing start/stop controls on the inverter?
--  Is there any ringing on the inverter output? As in surge suppressors 
failed/changed?
--  What is the holdover time on your computer?  How fast is the switch 
happening?

In other words there are all kinds of things could cause the problem you 
mention and almost as many ways that your machine may see things as 
problems and others do not.  Anyway I look at it, I think a power 
conditioner would be worth the effort in such a location as you have. 
Inverters are terrible sources of sinusoidal grid power so actually a 
power conditioner might be a lot better than just a UPS and some surge 
protection.

HTH

Twayne




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