Guy Voets wrote:
2008/10/29 Bob Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It's not the same. With the Windows Word keystroke function in the Special
Characters window I can for example, program Ct=Ctrl Shift a to give me a
capital Ä. Apparently you don't believe me.Open your Word program and see
for yourself.
Bob Redman
--- On *Wed, 10/29/08, Guy Voets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
From: Guy Voets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [discuss] Keystrokes
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 8:00 AM
2008/10/27 Bob Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dear sirs,
I like your Writer word processor, especially because of the included
spell-checking dictionaries for various languages.
However, there is one thing it can't do, and Microsoft Word can do, is
critical for me.
With Word in the "Insert Symbols" window, there is a "Keystroke" function
which allows me to reprogram individual commands on my keyboard.
I write a lot in German using my US keyboard, and I have developed a rapid
system for typing the German umlauts and the Eszet, for example: Ctrl a = ä,
Ctrl A = Ä, Ctrl s = ß, and so on.
This is much faster than using Alt 132, Alt 142, Alt 225, etc. on the
number pad.
Your "Insert Special Characters" window does not allow me to do this.
Thank you for your attention.
Bob Redman
São João del Rei, Brazil
Hello Bob,
Tools > Customize > Keyboard > Shortcut keys
will allow you to modify almost any key on your keyboard...
Shortcut keys: Shift+F10 (or some other key that is open and you like) –
Category: Insert – Function: Special Character – Click Modify - Now whenever
you do Shift+F10 you will get the Special Characters table. - After you've
inserted one SC, Shift+F10 will open back up to the same Font and Subset
that you'd selected previously.
HTH
--
Guy
Hello Bob,
1. I do believe you (and never said otherwise)
2. It's true: OOo isn't the same as MSO, and doesn't intend to be
3. I can't look at it in Word, because I haven't got that program
4. I used Alt-letter and Ctrl-letter macros all the time in good old
WordPerfect...
5. reply to the list, so others might benefit or help
My solution to the same problem is to use the "US International"
keyboard, which is built into all versions of Windows since (at least)
Windows 95. (MS-DOS had a similar layout called "Brazilian".) This
keyboard is the same as the regular US keyboard, except:
1. The keys ' ` " ~ ^ are "dead keys" and don't do anything until you
press another key; then it places the appropriate accent on the letter,
if possible; else it displays the original symbol before the next
letter. If you want an umlaut, you just type " and then the letter. If
you want á (a with acute accent), you type ' and then a. If you want to
type "a" with the quotes, you type ", then space bar, then a, then ",
then space bar; this becomes natural after a while. (Many, many years
ago I had a clunky mechanical typewriter that did the same thing.)
2. The right Alt key is now Ctrl-Alt, and has been empowered to do some
cool and nifty things. To get ß (Eszet), you just hold down the
right-Alt key and s at the same time. To get ÷ (division sign), hold
down right Alt, shift, and + at the same time. Right-Alt-d is ð (edh),
Right-Alt-comma is ç (c with cedilla), and lots of others -- exploration
is recommended.
The advantage is that it works in any program that can handle the
characters -- you will have the same keystrokes for MS Word and OOo
Writer and Notepad and everything else -- no need to learn how each
program wants you to define keyboard shortcuts. You can even use it to
name files.
Another advantage is that a lot of key assignments have been made for
you (although it is similar to what you have done for yourself) -- you
can install all of them in one fell swoop, if only you can remember
where Windows lets you change your keyboard (not so easy).
To install this keyboard in Windows XP, you click Start >Control Panel
>Date, Time, and Regional Options >Regional and Language Options; click
on the Languages tab; click on the Details button; click on the Settings
tab. [at last!] (Shortcut: If you see a question mark in a tiny square
balloon in the Task Bar near the clock, right click on it and select
Settings.)
In the box titled "Default input language", open the drop down menu and
select "English (United States) - United States-International". This
means that your default language will be English, as used in the United
States, and your default keyboard will have the "US-International"
keyboard layout.
In the box titled "Installed services", you should see, on three
indented lines,
[EN] English (United States)
Keyboard [preceded by a keyboard icon]
* United States-International
If you don't see this, click Add, and use the menus to select the
US-International keyboard. I went further, and highlighted the original
keyboard and clicked the Remove button. I think it is possible to have
both keyboards installed and to switch between them with a hot key, but
this is too confusing for my fingers.
Try it. If it doesn't work for you, just use the same procedure to go
back to the regular US keyboard. (You may be so used to your own
keystrokes, that you would not like it; habits are strong, and should
not be dishonored lightly.)
For characters not on the US-International keyboard, I use the very
klutzy Character Map applet. Click Start >All Programs >Accessories
>System Tools >Character Map. Since this is part of Windows, it works
in any program that can handle the characters. (If you like it, right
click on the icon and select Pin to Start Menu; then it is near the top
of the left column of the Start menu.)
——Eli
(English OOo3 on XP SP3 en-US)
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