On 09/28/2009 09:40 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:

When they get to the second page, I want them to have th full page length, plus a header that starts with page number 2. I do not want a header on the first page.

This is really easy to set up in Word, I'm having a hard time convincing other's in my department that moving to OOo is worthwhile when these kinds of problems creep up. Sorry. Rant off.

mcm
What I'm trying to do is create a document that has a 4-block header on the left hand side, the title in the center, and then open space for the author to enter their material.

Ah! OK, what you're running into is that Word doesn't really have anything exactly like OOo's "page styles" -- and that's what you need for this. You'll apply the style "First Page" to the beginning of your document, and add your 4-block header (not entirely sure what that means, but as long as you do it doesn't matter!). Add the title -- you may want to modify the Title paragraph style to your liking. Then you should probably add a couple of blank lines, then force a page break (Insert > Manual Break > Page Break, or just Ctrl-Enter). That will get you to a new page that uses the "Default" page style (or your own, if you want, depending on how you set up the "First Page" style). Once you're there, use Insert > Header > Default, then click in the resulting header and Insert > Fields > Page Number, aligning the field as you want.(it will start with 2 automatically, even though there was no page number shown on the first page). You can then save this document as a template.When your users create a document using the template, start typing on the first page, and flow onto the second page (and any succeeding ones), the Default page style will apply on the later pages and they'll have the whole page (less the space needed by the header) to use, with its appropriate page number. That sound like what you're after?

By the way, all this is assuming that the document will stay in OOo -- if it will be going back and forth to Word, things get more complicated, and you'll probably need somebody else to help.


This sort of thing is trivially done in OOo, but is very difficult in Word. For example, I use this template for most of my writing:

http://www.pitonyak.org/Small%20Simple%20Book.ott

My first page uses the "Title Page" page style. If you look at this page style you will see that it is defined such that the next page is of type "Information Page".

So, move to the second page, and you see that it indeed uses this style.

OK, so what comes after the information page? The TOC - First Page

A TOC - Following style comes after the TOC - First Page.

So, what follows a TOC - Following? A TOC - Following. This is similar to my chapter first page and chapter following styles. A chapter begins with Chapter first page. A chapter first page always starts on the right hand side (because I defined it that way). It then flows to a chapter following. Some people even use different styles for all left and right pages so that you can use appropriate margins.

Just something to think about.


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