On 11/23/09 18:06, John Kaufmann wrote:
Hi Uwe,

My OO education owes much to you seeing the crux of my questions. However, in this case I think you missed my concern:
In a message dated 2009.11.23 10:12 -0500, Uwe Fischer wrote:

... functions in the Table toolbar are different from the
"corresponding" functions available via the menu. [In the toolbar,
the Background Color icon has a paragraph/text context, as opposed
to the cell or table context for Background color via the Table
menu. I don't know whether that is right, or good design, or the
intent of the design team, but at least the extended info is consistent with the behavior.

you can set different background colors to characters and paragraphs.
In Calc, you can set different backgrounds to cells, too.

Yes, I know that. The concern is this: In the Table toolbar, the Background Color applies not to the table or cell itself, but to paragraph/text within a table or cell. Via the Table main menu or context menu, however, the Background Color applies to all of the table or cell. (The difference is easily seen if you increase the border margins.) This seems to me erroneous on multiple levels: There are other ways to apply a paragraph/text background color (including via the Formatting toolbar), without also using the Table toolbar for that function. Should not the Table toolbar provide shortcuts to Table functions?

This is not the only case where a toolbar function is different from the "equivalent" function via the menu; I just chose it because it is easily visible. It seems to me that a certain lack of consistency in nomenclature and methods raises the OO learning curve unnecessarily, and that toolbar functions being different from menu functions, as a class, fall into that category. Or did I miss something [again ;-) ]?

John


Hi John,

your ideas how to improve the user interface of OOo are certainly worth some more thoughts and dicussions. But this is the users mailing list, where users ask about how to use OOo. If you want to get into some valid discussions about UI, you would want to join one or more of the UX (user experience) mailing lists.
The UX project web page is at http://ux.openoffice.org/
The lists [email protected] and [email protected] are quite active. Those lists have a much higher probability of being read by the people in charge of actively initiating such changes.

Uwe
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