Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
2009/12/4 ??????? ???????? <[email protected]>:
* Web Kracked <[email protected]> [Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:54:50
-0500]:
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*thank you for advice. this is news for me about puppy linux etc.
what
i
need from office software is ability to compose macros in a similar
way
as msoffice offers by means of vba & ole technology. that's what i
have
under windows98 & msoffice 97. can linux + ooo beet MS on this field
or
at least be compared? as a newbie for linux i believed this was an
operating system not that resource demanding as Win was. am i wrong?
Alex
Johnny Rosenberg <[email protected]> [Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:59:46
+0100]:
2009/12/3 ??????? ???????? <[email protected]>:
thank you for reply,
i simply trying out linux as it is on my older pc (P1, 120mhz,
200M)
than
this redhat release to decide if it is ok for me. for instance, i
can
utilize vba on msoffice, but not sure if staroffice(or the likes)
goes
well
on ooo.
Wow
THAT is an old computer
I wouldn't even try to run
OpenOffice.org on that one, at least not a newer version. 1.1.5
would
be my choice.
What do you need OpenOffice.org to do for you? If only simple
tasks,
there are some lot faster solutions for an old computer like yours
(actually there are many different solutions, but here is one of
them):
Install Puppy Linux (an incredibly fast Linux distro which runs
directly from your RAM). OpenOffice.org won't be installed by
default
but it would be too slow on you computer anyway. Instead, use the
much
lighter and faster GNumeric and AbiWord, I think both are included
in
Puppy Linux by default.
But as soon as you need to do something advanced, none of these
will
be a good choice.
Johnny Rosenberg
the main idea is to put to life old gear by means of linux due to
supposedly linux's better performance. with modern gear i am ok
with
modern
mswindows.
Alex
* John Thompson <[email protected]> [Wed, 2 Dec 2009
21:30:16
-0600]:
On 2009-11-29, ??????? ???????? <[email protected]> wrote:
i currently am possessing a dvd with OO3.0.0 distributive as
exe
file,
which means it is for Windows. But i want it to install on
Linux
(red
hat7.1 core 2-4-2). is there any way to get it installed on
linux
(besides redownloding the linux version from site)?
Why do you want to run the Windows version on linux? It can be
done,
in principle at least, using Wine or VMWare but your RedHat
installation
is very old and unlikely to support the most current and stable
versions
of these.
Why not just get a modern linux distribution CD (IIRC, ubuntu
will
mail
you an installation CD free of charge if you ask) and use the
latest
OOo and latest linux? This would be far more effective than
trying
to
run Windows' OOo on an ancient version of RedHat.
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It all depends on the flavor of Linux. Some are demanding large
resources, while others do not. If you look for the light version.
http://www.xubuntu.com
This link is the Ubuntu light version. Look for this type
and you will get rid of much of the stuff in the desktop
environment that would cause your computer to slow down
[Quote:]
Xubuntu releases:
* 9.10, codename Karmic Koala (newest stable release).
* 8.04.1, codename Hardy Heron, includes Long Term Support.
Minimum system requirements
You need 192 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 128 MB RAM to install. The
Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM at install
time.
To install Xubuntu, you need 2.0 GB of free space on your hard disk.
Once installed, Xubuntu can run with starting from 192 (or even just
128) MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB
RAM.
[unquote:]
I started to run it on one old machine, before the power supply died
and was not worth replacing. Ran faster than Win 98 or Win 2000/pro
on that machine. Win XP home ran too slow, but that is what it's
previous owner had loaded when I got it. It was a 166MHz processor.
Good luck.
At least you can run several language version on the same machine,
unlike MS Office, at least it is easy on Windows. I am to new
with Linux to know how to do it on Ubuntu.
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thank you for advice,
since we drift from the initial topic ,and i have already gleaned from the
experiance operating linux, that
1. one has problems to install smth newer than installed linux ver. (device
or program),
2. consized or lite linux ver. presumes the mentioned in 1. problems.
I personally installed RH7.1 because it was in a linux textbook, but only
1cd from 2 discs distro, which means i was running consized ver.linux on my
box.
that leads to unability to install a printer, becaused my samsung ml-2015
was not mentioned in native printers list. Downloaded unified linux driver
from
sumsung site demanded among other uninstalled software cups. Downloaded cups
requered some libs. Try to install printer from printer's cd asked for gibc.
downloaded gibc did not installed requering some special installer, compiler
etc. saying nothing of miles-long installation instructions. the only thing
i managed to install so far is Webmin (as a substitute to missing
linux.conf).
Am i right, to install something in linux you should download and install
half a dozen another supported software from open source projects regarding
ver.
of releases, which would ask you to install smth more and more in multiple
progression? Or this describes only lite and older linux vers?
If you install only from the repositories, all dependencies are taken
care of automatically in most cases. If you installed a recent distro,
such as Ubuntu 9.10, printers and stuff should be detected
automatically and their drivers will install automatically.
So your issues are (probably) most likely to happen because you have a
really old distro installed. There has been a LOT of Linux development
the last years. Really, a lot! So just don't expect an old distro to
be easy to handle. If you are lucky you won't have much problems, but
in most cases I guess you have to fiddle around quite a bit to make
everything work.
Johnny Rosenberg
Alex
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That is why I suggested using a "lite" version of a Linux distro
like Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu. There are other "lite" versions
of modern distros as well. Since he has Red Hat installed, he
might want to look for other RPM versions instead of Deb versions
like Ubuntu/Xubuntu.
I installed Ubuntu and it found my old equipment (from Win95 days)
along with my newer stuff.
Alex, please download one of the newest versions of Linux.
Red Hat sends you to The Fedora Project web site
http://fedoraproject.org/
when you want Red Hat free. They charge for their Red Hat Linux
now, so if you want a Red Hat like Linux, go to Fedora.
Their download is an ISO image file. Once you burn it to a disc,
then you can try it without a full install, since it is a
LIVE CD. Just put it in your CD drive and restart your computer.
On the OpenOffice.org front, that CD should have one of the
latest versions of OOo on it and you can run it from the
LIVE CD. I like trying the different LIVE CDs/DVDs to see
which one I like best, and which one works best for my computer.
If you have a dial-up connection, then it should be able to
download in a few hours, so let the ISO download run at bedtime.
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